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[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 219 points 2 weeks ago

The psychopath needs to be separated from the road by a prison

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 44 points 2 weeks ago

I think we should just tie them to the middle of the road on the route of the Tour de France.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

That would hurt the cyclists as much as the psychopath.

[-] PrimeErective@startrek.website 38 points 2 weeks ago
[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Rough terrain ahead!

Look man, you're allowed to dislike sports but why disrupt the race? Let people enjoy things.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Just give the riders a warning and they'll just treat the obstacle like a speed bump.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 93 points 2 weeks ago

At least driver was charged with murder.

If this happened in North America, the driver might have only gotten a minor ticket for a traffic violation, and the cyclist blamed for (insert bullshit shift-blaming reason here).

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

An incredibly frustrating read, especially as somebody living in this province. Thanks for sharing.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to Ontario!

Even repeat offenders who kill cyclists don't get in trouble. Ask this guy.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago

Even in the UK, it often feels like drivers are slightly bloodthirsty for bikers. I've largely just gone over to walking as it feels not worth the extra speed to paint a target on my back.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

As a person in the USA the hate seems regional. Large cities and more urban suburbs tend to be better about it.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t think cities have anything to do with it. I live in an area with nearly a million people that has bike lanes people regularly use as turn lanes despite the signs.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago

Politicians here have been stoking this anger for years now. Drivers feel entitled to do shit like this all the time (I speak from many personal experiences). He probably didn't mean to kill the guy, but likely felt totally justified in jumping the curb and "trying to scare him". They forget they're driving fucking tanks around and justify their aggression with platitudes like "well I'm bigger, he should get out of the way".

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 30 points 2 weeks ago

He probably didn’t mean to kill the guy

Are you his lawyer?

When you run someone over, you DO NOT have the defence of "I didn't mean to kill anyone", and if you have to ride over a curb to do it, you will never be able to convince me that wasn't the plan from the start.

Running this man over wasn't an accident. It wasn't an oopsie-doodle where someone got mildly hurt by an inattentive or incompetent driver.

This was "I'm big and I don't like this person for X reason, hahahaha run little man. Wait did that motherfucker just tap my car with his fist? OH HELL NO GET STOMPED ON BITCH"

I'm stereotyping the internal monologue, but the point is the same. "jumped curb, injured cyclist, cyclist hits car, driver decides to run him over in response" there is no way to spin that as "it wasn't intentional"

Idk if you bike on roads often, but I do, and I have heard this argument so many times after almost being hit (or ACTUALLY being hit) and it just pisses me off when I hear it. Nothing against you.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

Woah woah there friend. We're on the same side here. I cycle my kid to school and then onto work nearly every day and I'm regularly on the receiving end of some seriously scary and dangerous assholes behind the wheel. They feel entitled to the whole damned road, and I'm sure they fantasise about running us over. I've been tailgated, screamed at, nearly clipped multiple times by people "just wanting to catch the light" or some nonsense. They are dangerous assholes and should be banned from the city.

I'm just saying that if you're going to pretend that everyone behind the wheel of a car is fully aware that they're pushing two tonnes of steel and glass around at high speeds, then you're not working with facts. Cars are literally designed to stoke the illusion of comfort and immobility, that you're just "on the road" without a Giant Metal Cage around you. You take a human and put them in that situation they will inevitably drive like fucking psychopaths. That doesn't mean that he shouldn't go to prison forever, but it's important to understand where this coming from.

The problem is the normalisation of a dangerous pattern.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I like to bike and think cars are a net negative to our society. I still get frustrated when a biker is legally using the lane.

What is wrong with me.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nothing wrong with being frustrated at a slow moving vehicle ahead of you.

But you should be more frustrated that the cyclist doesn't have a dedicated and protected lane where they can go their own speed, and instead they're forced to contend with 2 ton SUVs driven by (typically) the most high-strung Karens with murderous intent.

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[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 weeks ago

Why is anyone driving in a bike lane that has a curb?

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 weeks ago

To convince himself that driving a SUV in a city is a sensible choice.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

"Because he lost control".

Shout out to the lawyer who came up with that argument. It's completely braindead, but he was obliged to come up with something.

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago

because lanes "here" are not drawn for those fat SUVs. I see it everyday and i too tap the cars to remind them to get back into car lanes. When they free the bike lane they start bulging into the next car lane 🤦

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

When you drive an SUV, and you don't use it go over the curb and block the handicapped spot, are you really driving one?

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 weeks ago

I bet you the banging of the fist on the bonnet is what sent him on a rage. Advertising has made cars into a personal status symbol, but it is an expensive and fragile thing to move around a city with an expectation that it remains immaculate. This guy's brain probably short circuited right when his expensive status symbol was threatened.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago

"He may have lost control of the vehicle, hence why he hit someone, reversed, then hit them again, with fatal results. Its totally not his fault for being an impotent little man waving around a 2 ton dick"

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, do Brits call curbs kerbs?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Just be thankful there isn't a random U in it somewhere.

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[-] Skua@kbin.earth 12 points 2 weeks ago

eur

Take that baguette-bothering nonsense back across the Channel

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[-] Skua@kbin.earth 17 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. I think Australia and NZ spell it the same way as us. It's pronounced the same as the other spelling (allowing for accent variation, of course). We spell the homophonic verb meaning "restrain" as "curb"

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[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Had to look it up, first time I've seen that one. Straight to grammar gaol for me!

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

"The drivers teenage daughter was in the car at the time" Jesus H. Christ

[-] arakhis_@feddit.org 26 points 2 weeks ago

the audacity to lie after all that

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago

His lawyer can go eat a cock.

[-] Steve@communick.news 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The defense attorney is doing their job. It can be ugly. But it's so important.

Our legal system was built in the principal, that it's better for the guilty to go free, than for the innocent to be punished.

The defense attorney is the hero in our system. They protect us from the police and prosecutors locking just anyone up out of laziness, vindictiveness, zealotry, or just apathy.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago

While it's perfectly reasonable to defend the importance of lawyers and a defendant's right to a representation and a fair trial, arguing that he "might have lost control" isn't a defence, it's a lie. Telling a liar to get fucked is a reasonable position to take.

[-] Steve@communick.news 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Might have". It's an alternate explanation that's plausible.
We don't know it's a lie. We only read an article. We weren't there.

If that's not what happened, it's the prosecutions job to prove it in court.
As again "It's better for the guilty to go free, than the innocent be punished."

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

Cars need required communication systems. People need to be able to yell "fuck you" at each other for being rude. It sounds like a bad idea, until it isn't. Yes, it may make some people road rage ... but let's be honest, those people will just be road raging anyway.

With a comm system that is always on (ticketable offense for turning it off), people would slowly start becoming more courteous. Why? Because they would get sick of being yelled at.

That guy that drives beside the semi and blocks traffic on the interstate will get screamed at by dozens of people behind him.

The asshole speeding down the road and cutting people off would get yelled at over this local broadcast... people could be warned and given a "jerk alert", maybe a cop would hear and head that way.

Driving would become like walking on a sidewalk again. Yea, it could trigger fights ... but those people were going to fight anyway.

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Mandatory cb radio. That easy. Don't even require people to talk, just make it a requirement that a cb radio capable of transmitting be kept on in every vehicle. Dedicated band for this so you don't clog other traffic ofc, and very low tx power maybe 200mW

[-] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Little Kevin modding his radio to blast shitty music at everyone within line of sight

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[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

I would open carry if I rode a bike on roads.

[-] drewcarreyfan@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter. I was a bike messenger for 5 years. We all carried our U-Locks, some carried crowbars, batons, pistols, bear mace, stun guns... None of that matters when someone in a 2 ton death missile can basically light you out from behind faster than you can react.

The problem is and forever will be drivers.

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