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In that same period, Bartkus’ rhetoric on alternative social media sites was dark. “I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely...”

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago
[-] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago
[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

People on this thread are quick to blame "society" for his actions, which is fair. But I'd like to point out that social media is a huge part of society in the modern world.
Lemmy has a pattern of edgy people advocating for violence against their political and ideological opponents. That culture can radicalize people, and push already radicalized people over the edge, and when that happens it usually looks less like Luigi and more like this.
You just gotta ask yourself if this is behavior you want to encourage, deliberately or no.

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 day ago

So this guy is 25, and his dad is 75. Hm.

Hasn’t talked to his dad in a decade. Dad did stalk him out on Instagram to cyber bully him about 4 years ago, though. Hmm.

Mom’s age isn’t listed here, but she’s 63. 12 years younger. Honestly was expecting a larger age gap. Same last name as Sophie. Hmmm.

The father: Despite my past history of both alleged and documented abuse, restraining orders, estranged family, and seemingly multiple people in my orbit that have expressed a hatred for living, I want you all to know I consider myself to be a loving father and a good person.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 23 hours ago

The article allows the dad to speak in his own defense, then ever so casually sprinkles in bits of evidence that dad was a shitbag that likely led to his instability. It's art.

His son, he said, ended up graduating with honors from Yucca Valley High School. Richard Bartkus did not attend the graduation.

[-] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Yo I get what you're going for but I think the age of the father and age gap between the parents aren't nearly the same red flags as the other stuff

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, certainly. Age gaps are one of the things I keep an eye out for, so when an article doesn’t mention one partner’s age, I mentally flag it.

Included it in my comment because the linked article didn’t reference it, and if I pick out that sort of thing, surely someone else would, too. Maybe I saved someone a search?

The weirder part was that Sophie - who the article doesn’t provide a last name for - has the same last name as his mother. Lumped ‘em together because I didn’t have a good fit for a ‘third option’ in the flow of the comment.
Because - you know - if I’m going to speculate wildly about strangers on the internet, I’ve got to do it with a bit of panache, and that means I gotta follow the rule of three’s.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Expect more as the stressors in society increase

This is the result of people feeling hopeless in a dying world

Instead of fixing the domestic abuse, economy, and environmental issues that led to this we will increase spending on our police state to kill anyone who dissents.

We can clutch pearls all day about how horrible this 25 year old is, but we would be doing the same in his situation because the things he experienced lead people there.

Expect these kinds of things to happen more

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[-] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 days ago

Finally some exposure for Lemmy in the news.

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Holy Shit. What a dumbass.

Is other people’s choice to have kids or not really the hill you want to die on??

Well anyways, if this article is legit, looks like we’ll have a couple FBI agents joining us here. Welcome!

[-] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago

Ugh, now I have to add "in Minecraft" to all my posts.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago

I do find it odd that lemmy's first major insident isn't from .ml or any other Tankie instance, it's .world.

Does speak to the mismanagement of the moderation. This dude was fucked up in the head and only taken care of after this terrorist incident. You can call out moderators and be banned, you can be a dickhead edge lord who would later be a terrorist, and never get touched until the mods deal with it after.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

It's the same with mass shooters and murderers on reddit. The posts only ever get taken down after it becomes public. Sites like .world are too large to moderate every single comment.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do find it odd that lemmy’s first major insident isn’t from .ml or any other Tankie instance, it’s .world.

Does speak to the mismanagement of the moderation...

Keep in mind that Lemmy.world has almost the same amount of monthly active users as the top 7 other Lemmy instances combined (according to FediDB). It's statistically very likely that they're from there.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Correct, but for an instance that tried to stop posts about Luigi, has wanted people to "Debate" flat world and transphobia, they just didn't do anything with the communities that lead to this attempted attack.

Meanwhile I know people who proved a mod wrong and got banned, and the mod hasn't been punished.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

The communities that incubated this were on reddit. His lemmy.world account only made a few comments and posts 2 years ago and then never again. He created an anti-natalist community on lemmy.world in that time but it never became active.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile I know people who proved a mod wrong and got banned, and the mod hasn’t been punished.

Any link for this incident? Probably a report on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ?

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

I asked the person who it happened to and they didn't wanna make a post.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, what did this guy do that you think merited an admin taking a community away from its own mod?

Yeah. It’s kind of like saying you’re suprised rape happens more often in India than Iceland. (population differences distort probabilities).

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

world does have the politics community which they allow a certain narrative more than others.

[-] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

>expecting leftists to get out of the armchair

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

> meme arrows off of 4chan

Okay

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[-] Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf 39 points 2 days ago

Quoting the article

"I’m glad I’m an extremist,” he wrote. “Makes me WAY less tethered to this turd of a planet.

Very very screwed up. People like him are dangerous to society.

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