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[-] IverCoder@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

If your community knowingly depends on slavery then your community probably deserves to collapse

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[-] query@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Using underpaid prison labor to deny people access to well-paying jobs, forcing more people into difficult situations.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 47 points 1 year ago

Which again raises crime, which in turn raises the amount of underpaid prison labor.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

See, the system works. Well, not for us.

[-] OneeChan@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not a meme…

Once you know how and why was the private prisons created or operate and “earn” their money you would be sad if not depressed…

I recommend watching a documentary on this topic.

 

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, but you should really at least name a documentary and share some insight that it brings.

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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 64 points 1 year ago

So they are literally forced labour camps? How can anyone in the US still complain about Russia? (Just as a disclaimer, this is not a defence of Russia. I think the conditions there are terrible, but the US doesn't seem far behind, if at all)

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US has way better propaganda - the marketing strategies invented in the 60s by the nephew of Freud were put to very good use at bypassing people's reasoning and not just at making them feel needs, fears, and short-term endorphine jolts related to products and services being sold.

Also the US has way better circus and more bread than Russia.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cuz different rule sets apply to different parts of the world. That and the clever naming scheme the US usually applies to make things sound not as bad or marginably better than they actually are.

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[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much exact argument much of the south made about ending slavery before the american civil war happened..

[-] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Also frequently hear the same argument made for any change to the thoroughly corrupt healthcare scheme in the U.S.

That any form of socialized medicine would collapse the insurance industries putting thousands out of work and damaging stock portfolios and retirement accounts that may have invested in such. But hey, it's totally ok to bankrupt tons of citizens and enslave ill folks to lousy jobs because they can't afford to lose employment-tied insurance that would never be affordable as an individual.

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[-] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Translation: "But... muh slaves!"

That sounds an awful fucking lot like some of the rationale the confederates used around the time of the civil war.

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[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

The very idea that we have legal, Constitutional slavery still in the US and most people don't know or care is genuinely disturbing.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago

So it's just "we can't abolish slavery because it will hurt all the poor slave-owners" but modernized.

[-] brad@toad.work 12 points 1 year ago

I would argue that it's not even modernized. It's just the same argument.

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[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Translation: Slavery has always been legal in the US.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism. Gulag labor in the USSR was widely acknowledged and documented. And there are likewise credible accusations of forced labor (and much worse) in China as well. It's bad in every case, and intellectually honest observers would condemn this practice in every instance.

This isn't capitalism or communism - it's an autocracy and human rights issue. The places with the best criminal justice outcomes these days are generally the "third way socialism" eg Scandinavian model countries which have a blended version of regulated capitalism and wealth redistribution.

[-] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair this is hardly a problem unique to western capitalism.

The majority of western capitalist countries DON'T have legal slave labour in their prison system (or anywhere). I'm pretty sure it's actually only the USA

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[-] ChillPill@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Sounds like slavery with extra steps.

[-] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sounds like pure slavery:

  1. catch someone

  2. take away their freedom

  3. force them to work

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[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

Huh. So US would collapse without slave labour?

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago

Private prisons? Seriously, Amurica?

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Sounds like slavery with extra steps, cuz it is.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Oh no, is your community relying on slave labor because capitalism deems it not efficient enough to exist? Boo hoo so sad, better vote pro-slaver again next election, they will surely fix the problem this term.

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

But no, we can't plan out and try out a new or better system, because we might hurt poor old capitalism's feelings. Won't somebody think of the billionaires?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Did you intend to post this on a meme c/? Seems like the wrong place

Using the same excuse slave owners in 1860 used isn't a good look...

[-] atri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If that community wants to keep those lucrative prison jobs they need to step up and get incarcerated more.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Does he think Arizonans wouldn't like those jobs for decent pay?

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[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That's why I'm never letting my kids move out. I too enjoy the benefits of slave labor

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