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submitted 1 week ago by enemenemu@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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[-] rosco385@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago
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[-] axby@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I like how Mastodon lets you post links to things like your personal website or GitHub, and show a “verified” check next to them if you add something to your site/github to indicate that you’re the owner.

I don’t really use Bluesky but I like how they let you use your domain name as a username.

It probably rules out bots but I assume propaganda/troll farms could still do this.

Another thing I was thinking of is if there could be separate moderation lists that people could subscribe to. Maybe one basic one for “obviously spam”, but others for people who are suspected of being bots. I’m sure there would be abuse and echo chambers, but if anyone can create and many people can contribute to a list, people could just go with whatever list they prefer, perhaps looking at the blocked content itself to see if the list is implemented well.

I think some people used Reddit enhancement suite to tag users that they interact with. I like that idea but have never gone to the effort, and don’t usually read usernames enough to remember people. So a crowdsourced version of that might work.

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I AM NOT A ROBOT.

I CAN PROVE IT.

WOULD A ROBOT PRETENDING TO BE A HUMAN INTENTIONALLY DROP THEIR CONN%~~~~~~#!!!!! No Carrier

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

How do you know your own mother is real and not some holodeck character or maybe even just a figment if your imagination, or worse, a figment of MY imagination?

[-] Libb@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No one is paying me a monthly sub for me to pretend being interested in the shit they want to say. So it's a safe bet to say I'm not an AI ;)
Edit: and since i have no battery to recharge and no EULA, I can deduce I'm not a robot either.

edit: clicked too fast.

[-] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's a great question! Let's go over the common factors which can typically be used to differentiate humans from AI:

🧠 Hallucination
Both humans and AI can have gaps in their knowledge, but a key difference between how a person and an LLM responds can be determined by paying close attention to their answers.

If a person doesn't know the answer to something, they will typically let you know.
But if an AI doesn't know the answer, they will typically fabricate false answers as they are typically programmed to always return an informational response.

✍️ Writing style
People typically each have a unique writing style, which can be used to differentiate and identify them.

For example, somebody may frequently make the same grammatical errors across all of their messages.
Whereas an AI is based on token frequency sampling, and is therefore more likely to have correct grammar.

❌ Explicit material
As an AI assistant, I am designed to provide factual information in a safe, legal, and inclusive manner. Speaking about explicit or unethical content could create an uncomfortable or uninclusive atmosphere, which would go against my guidelines.

A human on the other hand, would be free to make remarks such as "cum on my face daddy, I want your sweet juice to fill my pores." which would be highly inappropriate for the given context.

🌐 Cultural differences
People from specific cultures may be able to detect the presence of an AI based on its lack of culture-specific language.
For example, an AI pretending to be Australian will likely draw suspicion amongst Australians, due to the lack of the word 'cunt' in every sentence.

💧Instruction leaks
If a message contains wording which indicates the sender is working under instruction or guidance, it could indicate that they are an AI.
However, be wary of predominantly human traits like sarcasm, as it is also possible that the commenter is a human pretending to be an AI.

🎁 Wrapping up
While these signs alone may not be enough to determine if you are speaking with a human or an AI, they may provide valuable tools in your investigative toolkit.
Resolving confusion by authenticating Personally Identifiable Information is another great step to ensuring the authenticity of the person you're speaking with.

Would you like me to draft a web form for users to submit their PII during registration?

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[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I wish legislation was passed to periodically prompt for fido2 biometrics to certify you are human. But doubt they would pass such a bill in the united states since the powers that be benefit from influencing people's minds with bots.

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[-] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I asked my deepseek r1:14b model and it gave this. It is quite wordy and likes bullet points. I wouldn't bother typing all this out.

Thank you for bringing up these important questions about bot detection and trust in online communities. These are valid concerns, especially as technology evolves and becomes more sophisticated.

Verification on Reddit: While Reddit does employ measures to detect bots (such as CAPTCHAs and rate limiting), it's true that no system is foolproof. However, the platform has been actively working on improving its anti-bot mechanisms over time. As a user or admin, staying informed about these measures can help us understand how communities are moderated.

Lemmy and Other Instances: On platforms like Lemmy (a federated social network), trust in other instances can be challenging because each instance operates independently. However, as a server admin, you can take steps to verify the credibility of an instance:
* Manual Verification: You can manually check accounts on other instances by reviewing their posting patterns and content for consistency with human behavior.
* Community Standards: Look for instances that follow similar community guidelines or moderation practices to yours. This can help ensure a level of trustworthiness. * Transparency: Instances that are transparent about their moderation policies and allow communication between admins are generally more trustworthy.

Future Concerns: As AI and bot technology advance, the risk of sophisticated bots mimicking human behavior will increase. However, staying proactive by implementing verification systems (like PII checks) and educating your community about suspicious activity can mitigate these risks.

Spam vs. Human-like Bots: While traditional spam bots are easier to detect, human-like bots that use statistical data to mimic patterns are more insidious. This is why relying solely on automated tools isn't enough—it requires a combination of technology and human oversight.

As server admins, we must remain vigilant but not overly discouraged. By fostering open communication within our communities and collaborating with other instance admins, we can build a network that prioritizes trust and authenticity.

[-] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

I asked it to be more concise:

Response:

"Great point! It's crucial to stay vigilant against bot activity on any platform. To detect bots, consider examining account history for inconsistencies, checking posting patterns that appear automated, and looking out for suspicious usernames. For server admins, collaborating with other instance admins can help share information and best practices. While no system is foolproof, proactive measures can significantly mitigate risks. Let's work together to foster trust and maintain authenticity within our communities!"

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