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[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

this problem would not exist at all under socialism, like, for multiple different reasons.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'd like to think that under an ideal socialist society, everyone would be cheering on the development of AI in the hopes it would further reduce working hours and allow for even more leisure while maintaining standards of living.

Also, robots would be developed towards socially useful work rather than being work-in-progress DoD killbots with a smiley face painted on them.

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

under socialism agentic AI would be received like "oh so one bureaucrat can do ten times the amount of work now? awesome!" and nobody would be worried about being "replaced" because everyone would just be seeing their work hours cut in half. we could be doing so much good with this technology...

[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

Artists could see AI art and be like "Weird and interesting." And then continue living an unthreatened high standard of life without having to worry about it.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 4 days ago

I don't know but it seems like an industry saying "let us do crimes so we can make money and everyone else loses out" seems pretty simple to me.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

or you could abolish copyright and nationalize/put into public domain 100% of computer science and art

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago

You could, but most corporations and copyright holders aren't going to go for that.

I think copyright should be limited to like 7 years, personally. But openai et al wouldn't be happy with that.

You'd probably also want to do something so if a smaller entity comes up with something cool, it isn't immediately sucked up by a larger entity before the smaller one can get any fame, credit, profit, etc.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

the "do something" there is probably workers owning and controlling the means of production

[-] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

I guess I was right when I thought all those games and movies and tv shows and music I downloaded were actually free blob-no-thoughts

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

The historical dialectic in action! Previously, industry's interests in intellectual property rights was a fetter on the development of human culture (eg. Grand Upright Music, Ltd. v. Warner Bros. Records Inc and Bridgeport Music, Inc. v. Dimension Films, the rulings on samples in music). Now with the advent of big data and "AI" scraping, wide-reaching copyright itself has become an obstacle. Industry has become historically progressive, attacking copyright and proletarianizing the middle class. Artists especially have taken a conservative stance on the subject, lauding copyright out of self-preservation (as seen in all discussion about generated art, as well as the Internet Archive's National Emergency Library period where writers were very happy to risk the existence of the archive for the sake of their intellectual property!).

Of course, it's not an ideal situation. Immiseration is not something to celebrate even if it's strategically useful, and the quality of art will continue to degrade. Just because there is now a contradiction in the interests of the bourgeoisie does not mean it will be resolved in a maximally beneficial manner for us. Instead of a major weakening of intellectual property rights, it's likely that it will be applied ad hoc for quite some time to the benefit of bourgeois interests. And an angry, precarious middle class is not beneficial at all to the communist movement if we cede messaging entirely to the right! No, we must make clear the necessity of the simultaneous abolition of copyright and public funding of the arts! Communists need to be strategic and put forth a real program on this issue instead of apologizing for property rights and defending the current state of cultural production!

[-] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago
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