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[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 weeks ago

Does it make you a war criminal if you simply agree with war crimes that others have committed?

Bit of a wide reach to call her a war criminal, no matter if you agree or disagree with her position.

[-] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 2 weeks ago

If Joe Bloggs next door agrees with war crimes, he’s just an arsehole.

If the head of the United Nations General Assembly agrees with war crimes, I think there’s a case to be made…

[-] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

It is still considered complicity in violating humanitarian law.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t the agreement with war crimes make you a sympathizer? The act of being a sympathizer is deplorable, but not illegal. I feel like a lot of people take their name-calling to the extremes these days.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Nuance left the building a long time ago.

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

And nuance left the door wide open for pedantry and contrarianism to come in and set up camp.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly my point but I guess I need to "listen to myself".

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Exactly my point but I guess I need to “listen to myself”.

Yeah, you fucking do. You're like "But is openly agreeing with genocide really a bad thing?" Like that isn't gross as hell.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Please work on your reading comprehension. That is not at all what I am asking. What I am asking is, if that is already making you a war criminal in contrast to simply a bad person. If you don't see the difference in that, I cannot help you.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That is not at all what I am asking.

Your question was hair splitting in defense of a genocide supporting piece of shit. You just phrased it as a question.

Please work on your reading comprehension.

You need to quit gaslighting people for pointing out the only thing you're about.

If you don’t see the difference in that, I cannot help you.

You're only here to help genocide supporters.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Genocide supporting piece of shit, you are saying it yourself! You are not calling her a war criminal either, and that's the point here but you are not grasping that, so that's it from my end. Have a good life with your attitude.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm saying that at some point, you quit splitting hairs.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

You understand that that's just pedantry though?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Pedantry in defense of genocide is the gold standard of centrist advocacy.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Does it make you a war criminal if you actively defend the people committing war crimes while helping to send them weapons?

[-] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Actively defend them? No it doesn't.

Sending weapons? At the very least you're an accessory to it, so I'd agree with that.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

What? Actively defending war criminals makes you complicit.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Actively defending a murderer doesn't make one a murderer

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It makes you complicit, as the other person said.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

Man there's thousands of people that murdered Brian Thompson then, huh

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Last I checked most people supporting Luigi aren't international leaders in positions of power, nor is he committing war crimes. So the situation of a leader in the UN defending Israel's war crimes and genocide is a far cry from the people oppressed by UHC and their kind being happy that Luigi took down one of the oppressors.

I'm not looking back on this thread at the moment, but iirc this is the one that made the distinction of her being a person of power. If it's not, then I guess ignore what I said or consider it in the context that the main issue to me and others is that she is a person who has direct power to enable Israel's reign of terror over Palestine. Making her complicit in the genocide.

[-] vala@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

IMO I does if you are in a position of power like this.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that Hitler should have been assassinated. Therefore, I am as much of a hero as those who tried.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The assassination attempts failed, does that make you a failure ? 🤔

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

I ... oh. Hey! Ow.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One succeeded, but you probably don't want people to feel the same way about you as they felt about the guy who killed Hitler...

If you enable it, maybe, kinda. Something close at least.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Does it make you a war criminal if you simply agree with war crimes that others have committed?

Jesus, dude. Listen to yourself.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

However, persecution is an international crime against humanity, so if someone wanted to, they could make a case against her at the International Crime Court.

[-] MoondropLight@thelemmy.club 20 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly she's probably one of the more moderate Germans from the last government. Germany as a whole, learned the most narrow lesson from the Holocaust and Munich Olympics; which, you would think would be "Genocide bad", but is actually "Israel good".

At least Baerbock has acknowledged the suffering and declared that "Palestine belongs to Palestinians". That's such a low bar but the majority of Germans don't clear that. It's very sad, but what can you do?

For so long anything critical has been labelled antisemitic and sometimes also made illegal. The first news org in Germany to do Israel-gov critical reporting would end up in court and might lose it's license.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nonsense. She was one of the most fierce repressers of protests and deniers of genocide. If this woman would face trials like Nuremberg she would be executed.

[-] MoondropLight@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't follow German politics that closely, so I've probably missed something, but how was Baerbock involved in suppressing protests as Foreign Minister?

Her comments at the start of the genocide should be enough for her to lose her position in government. It is really sickening and sad. But when it comes to German politicians, I don't know any that are better.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

She actively smeared peaceful protesters as violent antisemites. And she consistently said that Israel is not committing genocide.

[-] loomy@lemy.lol 12 points 2 weeks ago

Not 100% of everything is about the war in Gaza

[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

That is true, but she is an open defender of their actions. And has complained multiple times when UN tried calling them out.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

But the genocide is the only reason anyone is defending her in this thread.

[-] isekaihero@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

She looks really young to be the wife of Adolf Hitler. Bathing in the blood of 100 virgins must really keep your skin looking young.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

"German Foreign Minister profers an invalid defense of a rogue nation's killing of civilians" to "she is a war criminal herself" to "Nazinazinazi".

[-] fenpy@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago
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