(CW: Discussion of genocide) The average chud/lib is literally that underpants gnome meme about "step 1. do this evil thing, step 2. ???, step 3. profit!" (hexbear.net)

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I keep seeing people saying that massacring native Americans (and now Palestinians) was a good thing because they brought democracy to America and I'm thinking....good for who? You killed the people living there, and if we needed to live in a democratic country so bad we could've stayed home, killed the people back home and made our democracy there instead; so who was it in aid of? The soil?

That phrasing has always been weird to me, the idea that this or that evil act was good because we/they brought democracy/whatever else to the region; who was the benefactor here? Who was it good for?

This is like a sentient parasite talking about how they brought high birth rates and fully fed populaces to wherever they've propagated to; high birth rates and fully fed populaces of whom?

Kind of hard to argue the moral point when you're the benefactor of your own evil.

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[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

They have to frame it like that because the alternative is, "We had to kill people who lived differently from us so we could have freedom" and that's too much of a blatant contradiction. Swapping "freedom" for "democracy" doesn't really change the sentiment, but it does somewhat obscure an otherwise nonsensical justification as merely incredibly ghoulish.

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

I've seen people who don't even hid their disdain for natives behind "bringing democracy" or whatever other flowery bs some might come up with. I seen people who just straight up say that colonizers needed the land and they took it by force so it makes it right because 'America, fuck yeah!'.