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[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

This all seems to make sense. Ditching legacy and rarely used code that next to no one uses (and some that was temporary to begin with.)

Nothing stopping anyone else from creating things to handle gnome without systemd but also making the workload easier and one might argue more secure.

[-] dark_arc@pie.packetloss.gg 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I generally agree; I'm a big fan of systemd on Linux.

However, on BSD this does sound unfortunately likely to be painful.

Anyone developing desktop for BSD will likely just gravitate to xfce or similar I bet. I honestly am not sure what ghostbsd or midnight or others package by default now.

[-] dark_arc@pie.packetloss.gg 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not either, I've never even ran a BSD desktop... But I support the BSD desktop existing and wish it well.

[-] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

I've heard of the year of Linux on the desktop, but I've never really heard of the year of BSD on the desktop. Apart from OSX, maybe.

I guess this is the kind of stuff POSIX could've helped with, but it seems to be busy mandating buggy behaviour.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

GNOME continues its long journey from being the one-time linux standard to a occupying a quirky little niche for masochists and corporate IT departments.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

It's sad, but whenever I read news about Gnome I just think "why?". KDE just seems better managed with a better plan for sustainable development.

[-] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

Because choices, freedom... that kind of stuff. And I say this as a now long time KDE user who used to use GNOME in the beginning.

That being said, what made me flee to KDE was realizing that its devs somehow think they know their users better than their users know themselves so they decided to develop a software metaphor with a utterly specific way to do things. Not that it's a bad thing per se, they can do whatever they want if they don't hurt anything or anyone else - but I wish people coming into the Linux and FOSS world could have that as a kind of warning when the distro they choose to begin their journey happens to ship GNOME as default.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

GNOME being viewed as standard because of history is the source of a lot of complaints people have about Linux when comparing to windows and that never ceases to frustrate me

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

what made me flee to KDE was realizing that its devs somehow think they know their users better than their users know themselves

Who are you talking about, GNOME or KDE?

[-] dgdft@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Gnome. The maintainers have a hard-earned rep for contemptuous attitudes towards community and end-user feedback.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 3 points 1 day ago

Inagree, non-systemd users are the quirky little niche

[-] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

ConsoleKit support was removed 10 years ago. I still remember when I thought "I need to learn ConsoleKit when I get some free time".

Anyway, nice of them to provide the PSA and the transition facilities.

this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2025
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