My favorite is when they ban you without citing any of the rules you broke. Got shadow banned from news because I made a tongue in cheek reference to how billionaires see the whole of working class citizens. "no, just no" was all they put. No broken rule, and obviously, no grasp of sarcasm. Even had the /s and everything.
Sounds like you been served by Jordan Lund haha
It'll be a great day when the communities he moderates fade into irrelevancy.
they get steady supply of the normies getting funneled into lemmy.world main subs.
the good thing is that their censorship results in free thinkers ending up here haha
the good thing is that their censorship results in free thinkers ending up here haha
great point! lol
I'll post the big bad comment here to see if I was actually in the wrong, as I'm usually pretty mindful of what I post (I think?) lol
FOR MODS:
I am just posting the comment that was under a Luigi Mangione post. If I shouldn't, just let me know and I'll edit out. Thank you!
BANNED COMMENT:
‘Look, I get it. I have this excel sheet filled with CEOs, what they make a year, what company they work for, who their family is, what their blood type is, and much more. According to my spreadsheet, there are still ways to cut costs, and the only thing that can make my company more money is by offering these poor CEOs up to the capitalist machine. It’s just the cost of business, you know? I feel sorry for them, but profits are so much more important to me than some silly little person and their problems. ~/s~’
Cheekey comment that effectively communicates how the parasite class behaves vis-a-vis the peasants.
I give you 95% that Jordan Lund censored you for this.
During peak Luigi event, after censoring the shit out of pro luigi sentiment in news, pols etc lemmy.world subs. This clown slides into some obscure sub THAT HE WAS NOT "MODDING" where pro Luigi shit posters were discussing the events freely to let us know that he is monitoring what we are doing and if we keep it up, he will get it removed or some such shit.
Talking about putting that OT as a regime whore lol
Either way, this aint reddit and bootlickers can't suppress the organic sentiment!
Luigi did not do nothing. But he did do it, he done nothing wrong!
That is quite unfortunate, as Jordan was just commenting with me about the Fable franchise in a different thread. The more you know ✨ indeed!
I thought it was one of my better comments too, especially in the height of what happened 5 months ago. That is literally how they look at us peasants, so I thought it would be pretty well received regardless of political views, as the sentiment at the time was that a CEO getting offed was something both parties in the US could agree was a pretty good thing, especially a healthcare one that was and is still well known to deny valid claims. shrugs
Also, Luigi was with me that day, and we had a very good time playing Whack-A-Mole at the local Dave and Busters in Washington state. >_>
You would think we are all team peasant here but main subs are ran by DNC komissars who are ultimately just regime whores/controlled opposition. Once people understand this, the modding we see on corpo and big lemmy.world subs makes a lot more sense.
main subs are ran by DNC komissars who are ultimately just regime whores/controlled opposition.
Without a citation I won't believe it, but it would explain why they think anyone who disagrees with them is a paid actor. The GOP uses the tactic and the DNC is copying their playbook in the wrong ways.
Did you prove me wrong? Russian bot!
You're against genocide? Trump supporter!
You don't want to win over Musk? Why do you have the Democrats so much?
You called out the dems but not anyone else in the last 3 days because you have a job? Paid troll farm member!
This has been my thesis for about a year and my bias has been getting more and more confirmed.
This is deff my opinion as of now, evidence at best is circumstantial. However, after how they treated luigi and genocide discussions, this is a bridge i will be dying on until proven wrong.
Oh I detest .world's moderation. They actively let the most insufferable people mod and post, where if .ml was doing it, they'd call for defederation.
But .world can be insufferable bootlickers without being on the payroll. It would explain why they support Israel, censor leftists, and more, but it just means they're willingly doing these actions for free.
. Got shadow banned from news
Can Lemmy even shadow-ban tho? I wasn't aware that was a thing.
It can't, no.
You don't get notified when you're banned, but there is a modlog.
Ahh, ok, I get ya now. That's true. But you can't post to a place you've been banned, so it wouldn't remain shadow-banned in the common use of the term. You'd find out then.
To your point, silent banning happens for sure. Has happened to me a lot.
Yeah, that's weird. I wish people would be more descriptive in ban reasons. As the story is so far, it sounds like PTB to me. I get the impression from others on Lemmy that midwest is pretty ban-heavy tho.
Can't wait until we have better instances without the mod abuse.
I've said it before but this is a good time to say it again: Lemmy can be more authoritarian than even Reddit.
Yes there is a modlog, but no notifications, no modmail, no ability to even know who did the moderation other than that it was done by a "mod" - Reddit at least told us that we were banned?!?! and allowed for an appeal process - all of which makes total sense when you consider the authoritarian nature of the devs, who are well-known for site-wide banning upon saying something that they disagree with (even simple facts).
I am much happier on PieFed, which offers numerous options for democratization of moderation - e.g. you can place icons next to users names, or have that done automatically based on rules, thereby increasing the set of options from the binary "remove post or ban" vs. "do nothing, leave it alone for everyone to see" to allow you to decide what to do based on those. Like there are keyword filters in place (beyond simply "All" vs. "None", also offering "Some", if you wanted e.g. some Trump or Musk content but less than the currently tsunami of it!), thereby allowing a mod to leave a post up and allow the community members to individually tailor the content to suit their tastes. Like for a <2 week account, I may respond differently; or for someone who receives 10x more downvotes than upvotes, I may choose not to respond at all rather than waste time on such sea-lioning tactics.
Lemmy was made by the people who got banned from Reddit for being too toxic. We are using their tools, made for and by authoritarians, unless we build and use better (like Mbin and now PieFed).
This specific thing - about notifications - may change (though it has not in the 2 years I moved here from Reddit... only getting worse in fact, as the modlog used to say the name of the mod but now it simply says "mod"), but the overall trend looks like it will not.
Lemmy can be more authoritarian than even Reddit.
I think it's leaning that way. And I think it's hampering it's growth. I still like Lemmy way more than Reddit though!
And piefed is awesome!
Part of a temp ban I got (night have been my other account I don't use anymore) was because I ignored that my other comments were removed and continued an argument.
How was I supposed to know my comments were removed? There was no warning or anything, no notification about removals, nothing. Only saw the comments I was responding to as they popped in.
Doesn't REALLY matter, I deserved it, but it would be nice to actually be appropriately warned before catching a ban when a warning was implied.
That's a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications. Or, I've never gotten one. Like, rock n roll, ban me, especially if it's justified. But since lemmy doesn't let me know, if a mod doesn't send a "fuck off and die" note, I may not find out I'm banned for months (like your situation, it wasn't until someone else brought it to my attention).
But I do have multiple accounts, and if you want to ban me instead of just this account, you gotta let me know so I can filter shit out so I don't vote on an alt or make a comment while I'm piddling around or whatever.
Also, apologies for going off topic since the mod action taken against the OP is the point of posting here, PTB. With no specifics given, and the total lack of anything hinting at racism in your years on lemmy, I can't see this being a justified ban. Like you said, you're human enough to put on an asshole hat now and then (less than me most likely, but still), but racism just isn't something you've indulged in even in jest that I've ever seen.
That’s a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications.
Agreed!
Ever notice how seldom they quote the post and context, even when asked for contestation purposes? I once asked a mod somewhere why I was banned and they just replied "no" and blocked me lol. Summer people are just so patheticly petty.
Mods are just regular people. There's nothing virtuous or special about them.
Most of them have no problem abusing their power on a whim. They don't take this seriously and we shouldn't take them seriously.
Maybe it's that the mod is racist and they are just letting you know? That would make way more sense than you being racist.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms