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[-] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago

i hate this so much, israel must be stopped

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago

Influential commentator Tucker Carlson urges Trump to ‘drop’ Israel

Carlson has been a leading voice within right-wing circles calling for Trump to avoid being dragged to war with Iran by Israel.

After Israel attacked Iran, the talk-show host, who spoke at the Republican National Convention last year, said the US should not support Netanyahu’s “war-hungry government” in the conflict.

“If Israel wants to wage this war, it has every right to do so. It is a sovereign country, and it can do as it pleases. But not with America’s backing,” the Tucker Carlson Network morning newsletter read.

It added that a war with Iran could “fuel the next generation of terrorism” or lead to the killing of thousands of Americans in the name of a foreign agenda.

“It goes without saying that neither of those possibilities would be beneficial for the United States,” the newsletter said. “But there is another option: drop Israel. Let them fight their own wars.”

Interesting 🤔

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

France (Germany also) defends Israeli attack, condemns Iran. How's it going, "enlightenened democracies"?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

UN security council agrees to meet over Israel's attacks on Iran.

Interesting to see how this will shake out, as 3 / 5 ( US, France, and UK) will likely back Israel, with Russia and China backing Iran

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago

at least 50 people injured in the Israeli attack have been transferred to the Chamran Hospital

[...] 35 of those who were injured were women and children.

Isn'treal can't burn fast enough, sorry sack of shit of a state.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago

So "nuclear and military sites" are ones that typically inhabit women and children, very insightful reporting from MSMs.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

Hamas was obviously using them as human shields. Get with the programme.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

I seen map of hits in Tehran, half of targets were high density housing blocks.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago

May the people of Iran can remain safe from the genocidal Zionist entity. The world is watching to see Iran's response.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

50m ago from aljazeera:


Iran requests emergency meeting of UN Security Council Iran has requested an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council in the wake of Israeli attacks targeting its nuclear programme and military this morning, state media report.

Amir Saeed Iravani, Iran’s permanent representative to the UN, made a written request for an emergency meeting of the council, calling for it to take “decisive action … against these criminal acts”, Iran’s Tasnim state news agency reported.

“In a reckless, illegal and premeditated act, the Zionist regime has carried out a series of coordinated military attacks against the nuclear facilities and civilian infrastructure of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which are considered a clear violation of the UN Charter and the fundamental principles of international law, and whose dangerous consequences seriously threaten regional and international peace and security,” the letter said.

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

Trump needs to put his dog on a leash. fucking hell.

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except he refuses to as Isreal and the United States are all completely onboard with this. I don’t see this ending well. It will only escalate.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Trump has told Reuters in a phone interview that it was unclear if Iran still has a nuclear program following Israeli strikes on the country.

Trump said [that] the U.S. still has nuclear talks planned with Iran on Sunday, but that he is not sure if they will still take place. He said [that] it was not too late for Iran to make a deal.

“I tried to save Iran humiliation and death,” Trump said.

He said [that] he is not concerned about a regional war breaking out as a result of Israel’s strikes.

(Source.)

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

Good to know. A war in the Middle East would be catastrophic.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

US is moving navy to prepare for war with Iran

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago

At least some US leaders knew about these strikes beforehand:

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago
[-] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I mean yeah, they always know.

The question is how invovled were they in the attack itself (logistics, access to US surveillance, planning, etc.)

Trump seems to be implying this is "off hands" like he stopped engaging the Houthis in the red sea a while back.

I wonder if this is Netanyahu thrashing a bit in an effort to keep the US invovled, or the US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

US proxying an Iranian attack with more plausible deniability.

Why does the US care about that aspect. If the US wanted to it could directly attack Iran, and the only thing China or Russia would do is "tsk-tsk" the US. No one is going to bat for Iran, especially against the US.

[-] str82L@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Maybe because Trump claimed to be anti war when campaigning? Not that he ever seems to give a shit about being hypocritical.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago
[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

One of the al-jazeera posters thinks that's unlikely, and it's more likely that Israel is having a "now or never" moment since Trump entered negotiations with Iran.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Seems more likely to me that the US lured Iran into false negotiations as a cover for what they had planned with Israel

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

This is the most probable scenario, USA time and time again proven they are not interested with real nuclear compromise with Iran (or with anyone else for that matter).

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

It's hard to know for sure, and either scenario is very plausible. Israel is certainly doing everything it can to force Trump's hand here. Iran will have no choice but to respond, and then the Israeli lobby will put maximum pressure on the US to strike at Iran in response.

[-] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Al-Jazeera has repeatedly taken the opportunity to reframe the relationship between Israel and the rest of the imperial core as a domineering one. They have repeatedly undercut the resistance by painting them as the aggressors, "only making things worse" for the Palestinians. This only serves the US narrative.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

The cry bully strategy has worked for them so many times in western media.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago
[-] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago

Dawg, I am at my wit's end with online communism posting. Why are we taking Qatari news media at face value in the year of our lord 2025

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Of course they did, this is their porn. They've been beating the war drum on behalf of Israel for 20 years. Some of them have even been saying we should nuke Gaza & kill all the Palestinians. That is how sick these people are.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago

seems like "Iran's nuclear and military sites" is a euphemism for residential buildings in Tehran https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/06/13/3334027/iran-attacked-by-israeli-regime

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago

Stickying this for now, as aljazeera seems to be doing the best live updates.

[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 day ago

If you bomb a facility that is working with radioactive material that can be used to produce a nuclear bomb, isn't there a pretty high risk of causing a meltdown? And if so isn't that pretty similar to Israel dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran themselves?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

I highly recommend watching the documentary Zero days which is almost a decade old now, but about stuxnet.

It was mainly developed by Israel and the US specifically to target this very facility (natanz), and try to blow up nuclear centrifuges and slow down Iran's nuclear enrichment program.

The project failed (only managed to slow down their program for a few months) and was a prime case of blowback, since stuxnet infected critical infrastructure around the entire world, and even the US had to devote considerable resources protecting their systems from a virus they helped create.

I believe there's a pretty low chance of any meltdowns or nuclear events, due to so many fail-safes.

[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

I believe there's a pretty low chance of any meltdowns or nuclear events, due to so many fail-safes.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. But wouldn't it still be a serious safety hazard for the local population through contaminated air/water?

And if no radioactive material is set free, isn't it still available to keep producing nuclear weapons? According to a German article Iran is estimated to already have sufficient Uranium for 15 nuclear bombs.

In my simple mind that means you either have to directly destroy that material (and potentially expose millions of people to it) or if you just destroy the production facilities, you can only slow down the enrichment of further material without impacting the current capabilities. Do I oversee something?

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

wouldn't it still be a serious safety hazard for the local population through contaminated air/water?

Probably but when have the US or Israel ever cared about the local population

For the local population yes contamination but Meltdown no

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

No. Not at all. Nuclear reactions requires a pretty compact geometry. An explosion is the opposite of that. You can irradiate an area, but not cause an actual reaction.

[-] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 9 points 22 hours ago

Dunno but irradiating area seems like a problem to me as well.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

Here we go...

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Some initial footage of the Israeli bombardement on the Iranian Natanz nuclear site: https://i.imgur.com/y9PgMc6.mp4

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Iran's response has to be the total destruction of the US Embassy in either Iraq or Israel or they will be a whipping boy for the next 20 years, or until the total collapse of the US Government.

[-] dzso@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, the total collapse of the US government is scheduled for this weekend.

[-] rahm02@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Ah shit, here we go again!

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] not_amm@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

We're 10 years early, it was supposed to happen on 2035 😭

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