Why did they use a pipe instead of the letter I?
| Don't like it.
|’m glad |’m not the only one annoyed by that.
Because you would start talking about it
Yeah one of the fist ways I learned to create engagement was to fake typos / make simple grammer mistakes.
Well done
Thanks.. I... I love you <3
*mistokies
It really helps with engagement, and | fell for it.
It's not meant to be an I, it's meant to be an action. They're not writing "I commanded an army", they're writing "commanded an army".
No, it was not a good choice. But that's what they were probably doing.
I didn't realize that was supposed to be an I, | thought it was being used like asterisks to indicate action.
Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying "sexy".
Can you give a single example of an ancient historian describing her as sexy? All the sources I've seen focus on her skills and realpolitik rather than her beauty.
The average person thinks Hollywood producers = historians.
But she really, really wasn't. And she wasn't even Egyptian, she was Macedonia Greek (and it shows).
Was it historians who were saying Cleopatra was sexy or filmmakers?
History was invented by Universal and MGM. According to Universal. Others (Paramount) claim it was invented by Paramount.
Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn't stable either.
Getting conquered by Rome is just what you do when you live by their sea.
But yes, it was, all things are relative, and one can't blame the beach for the tsunami.
It's because of historians you those things about Cleopatra
"Catherine the Great was great because she fucked a horse."
I mean, how many other women can say they've done the same?
Nono you don't get it, she wanted to be the horse.
Nothing to me says 'sexy' quite like your grandad and your great-grandad being the same guy, or your (great * 5)-grandmother / grandfather being one man and woman, when most people have that responsibility spread between 64 people.
Close family. Must have made Christmas easy - having the in-laws round isn't so bad when they're your own blood relatives too.
Ah yes the “family wreath”
Must have made Christmas easy
Quite difficult at the time, actually.
Small domino: Greek bloodline fuckery.
Middle Domino: Hollywood.
Big domino: Incest porn.
Yeah I can't remember the reasoning / evidence but I do remember reading that Cleopatra was unlikely to have been beautiful or "sexy". IIRC it's indeed because she was likely to have congenital deformities due to inbreeding - much like those of Tutankhamen.
She was extraordinary powerful, well educated, and had a terrifying intellect. Additionally she would have bathed daily which would have been alluring in that era.
That said, there's no shortage of other powerful Egyptian babes, Nefertiti and Hatshepsut come to mind.
Edit: Plutarch the Roman historian said something diplomatic like physical beauty is not her most striking feature. Which, when talking about a ruler, is saying she's ugly.
No Cleopatra VI?
Historians haven't been able to definitively conclude whether V and VI were the same person or if VI was a child of V and older sibling to VII by extension.
Damn how the hell did Berenice sneak in there?
Bere nicely.
'Cos the romans were so fucked up they literally could not handle being out maneuvered, outsmarted, outstrategised by a woman. So they framed it as "pussy pass"
Wasn’t she actually considered not super attractive at the time? Like not necessarily ugly, but she wasn’t being mistaken for Venus incarnate. It was only later on that the idea of her being super hot because popular right?
Powerful women are sexy! Dont need to be crazy hot when you can whisper in my ear, the language of a people you just steam rolled.
plutarch and cassius dio emphasise the personality, wit, intelligence, charm etc etc...cicero went total piers morgan though
There was significant amounts of incest within her family tree, so it's likely that she wasn't that good looking
I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.
Why are there pipes ("|") in the text? It's throwing me
|'m guessing it's to spur engagement.
And, we fell for |t.
my take is that they're trying to do the ">text" to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box
>this is what was meant
this is what happened
that's my guess tho idk
But why is it "my brother" then? It should be "her brother". I think they are truly fucked up I characters
Don't historians say she probably wasn't sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn't seen much of that back then.
True. She was more seductive and alluring than plain ol sexy (according to my readings).
She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.
She probably like a lot of celebrities who are average looking but over produce to look way hotter.
One theory is that she was a bit odd-looking, but pointing that out would likely result in a painful death, so everybody erred on the side of flattery.
to be fair a weird looking powerful warrior woman would give me a fucking boner of steel
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