I swear if Trump prevents the US and its allies from joining the war and they leave the Zionists to do this and die alone, I will post a picture of Trump every day until mods tell me to stop or I get bored—whichever comes first.
It's not going to happen because Trump can't control Netanyahoo but if it did it would be one of the biggest and most tremendous decisions the US has ever made, possibly ever, more and more people are saying this. Please, MAGA.
My horseshoe theory friend would never let me hear the end of it
He cant control Bibi but can Bibi control him?
I honestly don't even know which lunatic is controlling whom anymore.
I do think the Zionists are only allowed to exist by the protection and support of the US, but at the same time I do think there's probably so much blackmail material and kamikaze-MAD threats that the US is probably often dragged into doing things by the Zionists that they might not fundamentally disagree with but may not want to do at that time.
Mostly meant it jokingly to goad Trump into pulling the leash on the Zionists though.
A new forever war could definitely fucking happen, but make no mistake this is NOT 2003.
In 2003 we had:
Trump is getting dragged into this because he's nearly as senile as Biden at this moment and he's surrounded by neocon hawks. He knows people don't want to go to Iran, not even Republicans. He's embarrassed that he's getting dog-walked into it, and Israel is desperate to get some American assets destroyed by Iran to force his hand. But there are a LOT pathways out of this.
We had chatrooms.
A/S/L?
He should get Hillary to take care of Bibi for him and do a coup of the entity in exchange for unspecified favors. It's about the only way out of this situation I can see that isn't a powerful actor like Russia or China doing a blocks your path type move of putting a bunch of powerful advanced anti-air assets there to prevent the US bombing from working. A move by the way which would immediately draw the ire of all the salivating, hand-rubbing war-hawk ghouls thinking they'll finally get to destroy Iran. It would definitely dial up the tension between whoever did it and the west and place them firmly as enemy number one.
I almost think Russia could afford it a bit more than China though maybe not as it might be enough to anger the apocalyptic Kkkristians into demanding NATO be sent into Ukraine and daring Russia to nuke them because one way or the other they want the end of the world.
We also had Linkin Park and Evanescence so it wasnt all bad (jk)
IT'S AFRAID!!! 
The fact that their is a video clip of Kamala talking about Iran when she was running for Girlboss in Chief leads me to believe the decision was already made a while ago.
Any such long running state conspiracy to topple Iran militarily (which definitely appears to be real) would at least need a president willing to launch it.
Between Kamala and Trump, I'm honestly partly convinced that the latter is the only one that is willing to not give the order despite everyone around them baying for blood. Kamala and Biden may not be the kind that post "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!!!" but they're the kind that would let their advisors convince them of pulling the trigger anyway.
Ahe reminds me of Obama in a way, that he presented himself as the sensible and charismatic politician to his opponent, who even criticised things like Guantanamo, but in office quietly ramped up any war that his advisors were sure wouldn't bite them in the ass.
For almost a week now I've been going to bed expecting to wake up to the US officially joining the war. But it's still just all talk.
I'm starting to think he isn't gonna do it.
Personally, every say since Trump called for "unconditional surrender" the chance gets lower. Trump's wildcard is that he might randomly change his mind either way, but I would argue that a lot of the build up is part of his cabinet's efforts to make a potential war look fast, cheap (in terms of losses), and popular.
They thought he'd go all in on day one and now they're sweetening the deal.
I think he will in the end, but he's clearly worried about the political fallout of all out war with Iran.
What fallout? He can not be candidate again
He seems to be very sensitive to whether people like him or not, though, and what the country in general wants. It's like some media/entertainer sixth sense he has that helped him get elected.
On the other hand, he watches Fox, which always lavish him with praise and they seem to be pushing war, so I still have a reason he's going to do it.
Retired U.S. four-star general Wesley Clark: After 9/11, the U.S. planned to take out seven countries in five years, "starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."
It wasn't a secret, this was the Neo-Con's PNAC (Project for a New American Century).
it's funny because israel could've just not
He’s going to do it.
guaranteed
Very funny to trigger a giant war between 2 nations of 330 and 90 million people because Bibi is afraid of going to Israeli jail.
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