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“Higher-Order Vibes” Are Killing the Vibe Coding Industry

I used to be a 10x vibe coder. A prompt artisan with five years of vibe experience on my CV.

My job was to whisper sweet nothings into our company’s overpriced ChatGPT wrapper. We shipped MVPs one after the other. It was good.

Then, word came out about “Higher-Order Vibes”: Prompts which coax AIs to act like vibe coders. Some Satoshi-wannabe released the whitepaper anonymously, and it became the talk of every CTO.

It was a replacement. A dehumanizing monstrosity which stood against everything I vibed for.

My first day with HOV, I gave it a hand-crafted prompt for a meditation app. Then, it responded:

Prompt too detailed. Over-specified. Try to feel it more. I’ll take it from here.

Then it generated the app. It was perfect. Better than anything I could have put into wishful words. It even wrote a 500-word monologue explaining how the vibes it used were “immaculate” and that “humans do not belong within them.”

Technical Details

For those who've been living under a rock for the past two months, vibe coding is a technique in which you describe to an AI the app you want, and the AI gives you the app:

In short, vibe coding kick-started an era in which humans could make computers do new things, rather than the stuff they’d been hard-wired to do at the factory or through installed “software” (another word for “apps”).

Now, this is what CEOs want:

I cannot overstate the need to protect our art — an achievement of human ingenuity — from the cold hands of automation. If we give up the fight now, we might suffer the same fate as the programmers of old.

We’re about to lose the human right to make computers go “beep boop,” no matter what “beep boop” is to you.

Closing Thoughts

Let this be a warning. Our craft, our vibing age, is coming to an end.

I might go down — that I know. But you know what? I’ll never stop vibing. They can’t take that away from me.

I’ll vibe for fun. I’ll vibe at home. I’ll vibe in public, there’s no shame in that. I’ll vibe at the gym, I’ll vibe with my bros. Vibe me once, you can’t vibe me away.

Choose vibe.

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[-] ZoteTheMighty@midwest.social 5 points 8 hours ago

Wait, you're telling me AI companies that made their millions off of stealing data from others across the web is using people's AI prompts as an input? I'm shocked by this development, and by shocked, I mean I am shocked that anyone would be shocked by this.

[-] lippiece@programming.dev 11 points 21 hours ago
[-] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago

I used to be a 110x high order vibe coder like you. Then I took an AIrrow to the knee.

[-] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 68 points 1 day ago

I really can't tell if this is satire? It has to be, right?

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 66 points 1 day ago

I mean I'm like 99.9999% sure the post itself is satire, but what worries me is that I'm not sure if the concept of "higher order vibes" is itself satire or not

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The concept is real. I mean, anyone who thought "vibe coding" would be a viable career path for long enough to actually have a career was just not paying attention to reality.

Right now it legitimately takes some expertise to get good results from AI coding. (Most people doing it now get, at best, convincingly passable results.) But the job of a "vibe coder" is much simpler than the job of a conventional programmer, and it will become increasingly simple to automate out the human's role. It's not like progress is going to suddenly stop. The fruit is hanging so low that it might as well be on the ground.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Yep. Vibe coders are feeding the algorithm the parts it's missing to vibe on its own. And since vibing is done in natural language, it's trivial for the LLM to incorporate for later reproduction.

[-] JakenVeina@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago

No question, this is what the moneymen want. They see programmers (all human employees, really) as a liability.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago
[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No no, the one that goes Boop beep beep boop!

[-] BT_7274@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I think you mean beep, boop boop bop, boop boop bop.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Here I go trying to vibe code something maintainable with testcases, tool chain, build system, and documentation. Better delete everything and just rely on pure vibes.

[-] RonSijm@programming.dev 9 points 21 hours ago

Documentation? Maintainable? Test cases? You're too attached to old paradigms in a new vibe based world.

Why do you need any of those? If you need any new features, you just re-engineer your prompt and ask the AI to rebuild it from scratch...

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago
[-] calabast@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"it was written" URL

links to a YouTube page

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Get with the vibes, man!

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

yes, lyrics are often written out before being performed..

I hope you wear the velcro shoes for your own sake

[-] calabast@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago

I wear them because they are comfy and I can't accidentally tie my fingers in the laces, thank you very much

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

I hope you wear the velcro shoes for your own sake

I wonder what the daily recommended allowance of irony is

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm anemic so I bathe in the shit

this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2025
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