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[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago

A bargaining chip for China considering that Trump wants to make a deal. It's on brand too because he caused the problem to begin with.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 21 points 20 hours ago

China should not trust the united snakes

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 2 points 18 hours ago

China is right to be skeptical of the US. But this might be a case where they're somewhat aligned. Beijing probably would rather Iran not have nukes since that would make them a much more powerful player in the region. And China is very energy dependent on oil imports. If the straight is closed, that would greatly impact Chinese industry.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Do you really believe in Iran wanting nuke? The united snake having control of Iran isn't good at all for China too

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago

Yes. Apparently Putin does too since he recently mentioned that they might give nukes to Iran.

Here's what I believe out of all this:

  • Iran is a totalitarian theocracy that has been trying to develop nukes for a long time.
  • Everyone except the Iranian government would rather Iran not have nukes. It would essentially be the middle eastern version of North Korea.
  • Israel attacked a lot of Iran's air defenses and convinced Trump this was a unique opportunity to strike Iranian nuclear sites. Israel doesn't have the capability since they don't have bunker busters and the sites are underground. They probably convinced him he would be seen as bringing peace to the middle east which is why he ended his post about peace.
  • Trump legit thinks this is a 1 time thing and he can be done with it. He's not trying to turn Iran into a puppet state, just wipe out their nuclear capability.
  • Trump is wrong and we're going to be dragged into another war in the middle east. Just because Iran's military couldn't attack the US, doesn't mean there won't be consequences. I think trump is too stupid to see that far ahead.

What I foresee is Iran closing the straight, which will raise oil prices, which will raise US gas prices. This is when MAGA representatives will break with trump because he will be incapable of walking back or expressing regret. I also foresee Iran trying some 9/11 style attack on the US, dragging America back into the middle east.

If you think Iran's nuclear program was entirely about nuclear energy, I've got a bridge over the straight or Hormuz to sell you.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Iran is a totalitarian theocracy that has been trying to develop nukes for a long time.

Iran is a s religious country ruled by the supreme leader , Khamenei had released a religious decree prohibiting the use of nukes. So no Iran is not pursuing nukes or even getting it from Russia . You just believe Satanyaho claims , Satanyaho was saying Iran is so close to having nuclear arms for over 30 years . Israel and America under trump has the biggest chance to drop nukes than any other countries

Israel attacked a lot of Iran's air defenses and convinced Trump this was a unique opportunity to strike Iranian nuclear sites. Israel doesn't have the capability since they don't have bunker busters and the sites are underground. They probably convinced him he would be seen as bringing peace to the middle east which is why he ended his post about peace.

Trump is a zionist just like all previous American president not because he care about Jewish supremacy but because of American imperial interests like it always been. Israel didn't convince him to do anything he willfully helped Israel just like any other American president will always do

Trump legit thinks this is a 1 time thing and he can be done with it. He's not trying to turn Iran into a puppet state, just wipe out their nuclear capability.

Another BS , both Israel and America want a regime change. From Israel perspective they want to destroy or control any country that effetely support Palestinian liberation movements. Iran support for Palestinian is of course based on geopolitics but still they are supporting Palestinians. For American all what they did against Iran was for natural resources and to have more leverage against America biggest two enemies Russia and China . Instead of the united state with diplomacy have good relation will Iran , it decided to overthrow Iranian democracy in 53 and impose sanctions since them

Iran trying some 9/11 style attack on the US, dragging America back into the middle east.

Iran could have done terrorists attacks since 79 in American soil they never did and will never did. That would be a very dumb idea, It will hurt people who support Iran. Iran will just attack military bases and trump will use that excuse to call it an aggression against American and American interests and keep getting involved in the war

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 0 points 4 hours ago

You are simply divorced from reality.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You a fool who believe israel and the united snake. My response is based on history and reality

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Incompetent morons didn’t see the most obvious issue all the people they fired could have told them about.

Episode 61.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh, they knew. They expected it. Now they can use it as a pretext for further escalation.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

It gets good in season 6 I swear

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Me as a powerless USian

Also I wish the media would get the poor guy's name right it is MICRO Rubio not Marco.

[-] PunksAlwaysWin@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

China is in bed with Iran and Russia with regards to BRICS. I find it very unlikely China is going to do anything to get in between Israel and Iran, and even if they do, its clear to me which side they'll choose.

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