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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

Trump bragged about having the tallest building in NY after terrorists took out the Twin Towers on 9/11. Then, 24 years later, he complimented and shook the hand of the man who ordered the attacks, in front of the US Secretary of Commerce whose brother and staff were killed.

But sure, tell me how the front-runner for mayor being a member of the same religion is the bigger deal.

[-] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago

Who was the person he complimented and shook the hand of? Sounds hyperbolic but I’m interested to know anyway.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago

I assume they're talking about Ahmad al-Sharaa: https://abcnews.go.com/International/al-qaeda-syrias-presidency-rise-ahmad-al-sharaa/story?id=121788656 although I'm unsure about the claim of "ordering the attacks"

[-] bigb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The depressing thing is that I thought they were referring to the Saudis and the latest U.S. investment trip.

[-] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks! That article suggests another was the plotter:

“Unlike some terrorist leaders -- including Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the late leader of the Islamic State jihadist group, and Ayman al-Zawahiri, the late al-Qaeda chief and accused plotter of the 9/11 terrorist attacks -- al-Sharaa has not been known as a charismatic leader, said Warrick.”

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That article suggests another was the plotter

Not to mention that al-Sharaa was a 19-year-old with no known status in any groups at the time of the 9/11 attacks.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

That's quite a claim to provide without evidence.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I was referring to Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa aka: Abu Mohammad al-Jawlani. I read that he was directly responsible for the attacks when the video first released. Now there’s more information available, and it appears he just inspired and cheered for them. I edited my comment for accuracy.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

And you still managed to provide zero evidence.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 2 weeks ago

The guy who won the NYC mayoral primaries (Zohran Mamdani) does not cheer on the genocide in Gaza, so he must be a Hamas plant. This endangers jews all around the globe. Obviously.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

In fact, he actively speaks out against it.

Mamdani/Cuomo

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

Betar is a Ziofascist organisation funded by Israel. They are doing what they do: whipping up hostility and fear against people who support Palestine.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Betar is an Israeli terrorist organisation (literally). Currently they give Donald Trump orders on which pro-Palestinian activists to deport.

In New York, the Democratic primary was just won by Zohran Mamdhani, who actively opposes Israel and wants to impose sanctions against Israel until it complies by international law.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

I just connected it now. Is all the 911 drama actually about a mayoral candidate being a muslim? Are you fucking serious. I though i couldnt be any more dissapointed in people but apparently ive just been proved wrong again.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Remember that he's got the votes though. He's still got the general election to go through but despite all this hatred ... a majority saw through it. Let's hang onto some hope. The world is so shitty right now.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

NYC has despised trump for decades, as have most large cities. The GOP's grip on federal power has never depended on winning the blue cities.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, it's because he's a progressive leftist; a socialist. They know they can call out him being a Muslim and get people to not vote for him though.

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Betar, famous for anti-semetic attacks on jews critical of Israel. They forced a "pager" in to the breastpocket of Norman Finkelstein and called him a holocaust denier of all things. His entire family was exterminated ffs.

[-] EldenLord@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

LMAO imagine going on a schizo rant just because the winning major candidate is of a different religion that you don‘t like. Almost as if religion is used as a tool for power and legitimization of violence against innocent people.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for your attention to this matter

Isn’t that a MAGA dog whistle that Trump uses?

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

last I heard everything is a dog whistle for everything

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah my understanding of dog whistles is about as thorough as my ability to hear them, seems like it's a code that changes every day

[-] dermanus@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's something he's started putting at the end of his tweets. I assumed it was dementia not a hidden message.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

If the IDF hates a canidate you know they're a good person.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

So extremists are telling other extremists to leave New York?

Don’t let the door hit ya where Yahweh split ya.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

New York Jews are not extremists, though? They're just normal people who happen to be Jewish

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, but I'd argue any who listen to this advice must be.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.

Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.

Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.

This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups. And it's not even like orthodoxy is even "extreme"

A fraction of Jews are Orthodox and a fraction of those Orthodox Jews are extremists. So yeah, I wasn't 100% correct but it's not even in the same ballpark as what I replied to.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups

That's the thing with ethno-states, you don't have to be religious to be a nationalist. It's not just orthodox Jews who have a problem with Palestinians. Hell, you don't even have to be Jewish to have extremist views about the genocide in Palestine. You could be orthodox, a secular Zionist, a right winged nationalist, or you could even be vicariously motivated evangelical who thinks a war in the holy land will spark the second coming. Are those views "normal"? Not to me, but I'm not exactly in charge of making those opinions for others.

As I said, it really depends on what your perspective is when it comes to what qualifies as normal.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Less than a month after the attack that began this whole thing new york jews weee marching against genocide with a fair bit of frequency. I only know this because I visited a Jewish friend there at the time and kept hearing complaints about how several of these protests were having the jewishness of them ignored.

New York jews are normal Americans. Unfortunately yes that includes the aspect where they're likely to mythologize and idealise their ancestral homeland. But much like other Americans, many are incredibly critical of it or don't care or any other opinion.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Without knowing who they are, this reads like an anti-Semitic tweet.

Would be really funny if someone started a thread accusing them of such.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

There is a socialist on the loose in New York City!

Come home brother! Your true home! Your calling is to be a genocidal maniac with us! Think of the land we’ll steal! The children we’ll murder! It’s our destiny!

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that he won is amazing and a good sign for the city, hold on to that thought.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Israelis giving New York Jews more notice of a future Muslim Mayor than they gave of 9/11.

Curious.

[-] VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn they're shooked.

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