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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

lemm.ee has shut down at 00:14 UTC.

unfortunately I realized too late that I have had hundreds of saved links to posts and comments from there, so I did not have enough time to save them, but anyways it is interesting that maybe a third of the post links I could try were dead. I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.

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[-] inlandempire@jlai.lu 56 points 1 week ago
[-] iso@lemy.lol 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You were waiting for this one for a month, aren't you? :)

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 43 points 1 week ago

Deleting your account deletes your content, unlike deleting your Reddit account. Hence the linkrot.

I learnt pretty early on that saving posts using the save button was not a good way to save the information 😮‍💨

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Not quite. If your comments federated out to an instance that either a) doesn’t get the delete request or b) ignores the delete request, your comments will very much stay out there in the fedeverse with not much you can do. Yes posts on the original instance may be gone, but anything that get pushed out via ActivityPub is a crap shoot.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago

Yes with ActivityPub there's always failed federation. But Lemmy will send the delete request out when you delete your account. Other software or instances might not honour it, but the intent is there.

As opposed to reddit who do not remove comments when an account is deleted, only mark it as a comment from a deleted account.

I'm not against Lemmy's implementation, but it does require you to collect information you need at the time not assume it will always be there.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah, I get where you’re going with that and understand your view. My point was more for users who think that deleting an account will really get rid of it everywhere and I didn’t want them getting their hopes up.

[-] loki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

That's weird. I moved over from lemm.ee and transferred data. The saved posts transferred too.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 week ago

No that's expected, as part of your profile info. But if the original authors delete the comments, then they will also be deleted in your saved items.

[-] loki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago
[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah bookmarks are a lot better than using specific save systems

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago

Bookmarks won't help if the content gets removed. You've got to copy the important information elsewhere.

I tend to use either a note app (Joplin) or a self-hosted wiki for that.

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I always take a screenshot because I am lazy but just copying the text, like you say, is better

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[-] fakir@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago

Hello world, lemmee refugee here, & first post on piefed! I had exported my settings before the ship went down, figured we could import it in another instance to save my comments and communities, but I don't see any option to import here. Does piefed speak with Lemmy yet it's not part of Lemmy?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

Piefed speaks to Lemmy instances, yes.

You can import data here: https://piefed.social/user/settings/import_export

[-] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

It was my first home. I thank them for bringing me in.

[-] k0mprssd@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

🫡 you were good to us .ee, may you forever rest in peace.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The content isn't gone.

It's still retained by the various instances that lemm.ee federated with, and entering the url of a lemm.ee post on those instances should still let you find their local copies if they have it.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

yeah but it turns out a lot of my lemm.ee links are not actually to content that's originating from there, but lemm.ee-view links for which if I search, there's no result.

Fortunately I also have the title and image permanently loaded for these links, so I can find them with some manual work

[-] Majestic@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

It'll be greatly missed. It was nice to have an instance with a reasonable defederation policy where I could interact with anyone basically.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

Nice for you, bad for the mods. Only way to do that without outsourcing mental strain to other people is to self host

Yeah I remember I few people saying modding .ee was hell because of infinite streams of users from the same instances and their refusal to defederate

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Damn, since I saw the warning thread I was hurrying my slow ass to back up my stuff, which I gladly did (some days ago), lemmy.zip is my new home now.

I feel sorry for the users that didn't get the chance to backup their stuff... An auto backup feature for Lemmy backend might be worth checking out perhaps?

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[-] Aku@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

I was literally filling out an application for another server when it went down. Sad day.

Unfortunately I waited too long and now I can’t see my subs that I wanted to migrate.

[-] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A solution to this is Nostr. One identity across the entire network.

Twitter-like Platform/client dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

Reddit-like platform/client dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

PC dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

Data is sync'd across multiple relays, you can run your own, and clients are interoperable.

It's my go-to now, for everything. A person's posts, their followers/audience, chats, etc never needs to be migrated.

Media is stored using the Blossom protocol which was created for Nostr.

V4V(Value 4 Value) is also a thing, so instead of just Likes/Reactions you can tip/Zap Sats (Bitcoin over Lightning) but that's optional.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Centralised identity is something that Nostr does right. But it's got a nazi bar problem

[-] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It's not centralised though. It's quite decentralised actually.

As for your "nazi bar problem", I'd suggest you review the relays you connect to. That's the beauty of free speech, and power of choice.

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[-] Kirk@startrek.website 9 points 1 week ago

I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.

Are you sure? Are lemm.ee posts showing as deleted for you? It looks like the copies of anything posted to lemm.ee still exist on the instances that it was federated with. Try this link !animation@lemm.ee, I am pretty sure it should still work on your instance.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's not all the lemm.ee posts, just a significant amount of them.

also in the meantime I realized my hundreds of lemm.ee links are not actually links to lemm.ee hosted posts, but just links to the lemm.ee view of them. I was just very often copying the wrong link that still worked, but wasn't the definitive one

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The linkrot is real but not unexpected when anyone can spin up and shut down instances. Nothing is forever

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's mostly not because of instance shutdown though. especially on lemmy, because lots of posts are readable elsewhere after shutdown.

[-] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I'm sure I was sufficiently notified, but I am not big on reading updates on ny instace, so this came as a surpise just now.

Thanks for the server! Onwards to the next!

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The original shut down thread was posted over 3 weeks ago.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/28167574

[-] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

RIP home server, you will be missed

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Out of the loop, why did they shut down?

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

Not enough admins, and those there were burnt out.

[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Furthermore, I thought that they were supposed to be a temporary instance for the reddit influx as well.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago
$ curl -sI https://lemm.ee/ | grep '^location:'
location: https://join-lemmy.org/
[-] bruce_babbler@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago
[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

speaking of that, there was a userscript that is able to find the same post on other instances. I should look it up, in case it can also work with posts of offline instances

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it should, as long as the post was synchronized in the past...

https://lemmy.zip/c/meta@lemm.ee

seekms your username was different on lemm.ee:

https://lemmy.zip/u/WhyJiffie@lemm.ee

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~hmm that's interesting because I did not have a lemm.ee account! :D~~ just 3 tons of links to it.

edit: I misunderstood it, no I didn't have an account there

also in the meantime I did some research. it turns out I was probably remembering the Lemmy Universal Link Switcher userscript: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469273-lemmy-universal-link-switcher

it can look up posts by their activitypub id, which is the de-facto ID of a post, that is same across all instances. this ID is the url of the content on the original instance. so, the following could be an activitypub id, if the post was actually created on lemm.ee: https://lemm.ee/post/64477597

to look up a post by this, the userscript uses the /api/v3/resolve_object API endpoint.
it searches your local instance, and if you are authenticated it also queries the host in the url, lemm.ee in this example. but of course this remote query does not work anymore.

now here comes the twist. I know I always read lemmy through sh.itjust.works, so whatever I saved should be known by this server. and the link that I save, often does not point to the origin instance, because clients work that way.
so it seems 2 lemm.ee links that I tried to look up were not actually posted there, because bmy server does not know a post that has this ap id, I just somehow got a link that points to the lemm.ee version of that post or comment........

Fortunately the messaging app I misuse for link collection always loads the title and image of the webpage, so by some manual work I should be able to find the actual links to each of them.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
$ curl -sw'\n' \
     https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/resolve_object?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsh.itjust.works%2Fcomment%2F19488525 \
     | jq -r '.comment.comment.content' | head -n 1
~~hmm that's interesting because I did not have a lemm.ee account! :D~~ just 3 tons of links to it.
$

Edit to add: Lemmy seems to URL-encode ':' and '/' sometimes :/

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