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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’ve voted against him every time he’s had a primary challenger for the last 26 years. Maybe we’ll finally get more people to show up in 2028. I’m sick of retirees picking my Senators.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Congratulations, dipshit [Schumer, not OP], you've done something perfectly counterproductive by (a) making it sound like (presumably) something that's less of a blatant Orwellian farce that turned people against it just because of the name, and (b) creating confusion that makes it harder to organize against it because now there are two different names out there.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

All part of the plant

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

also like it clearly didn’t solve anything even optically bc this website is still up https://www.whitehouse.gov/obbb/

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

WE GOT HIM!

I'm going to call my senator and ask him to stuff Chuck into a fucking locker.

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[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Not a dollar to the DNC or a DNC candidate.

Never, ever again.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Honestly, I'm at the point where I support the full-on dissolution of the United States. There's just no coming back from this level of decay of political norms and culture. This isn't going to end without either a peaceful dissolution of the country or a civil war that kills millions of us. I say we just skip the civil war part, grant all 50 states independence, and let the states come back together into whatever new nation or collection of nations they wish to form.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

can we get like a 30-day musical chair countdown?

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I want to agree, but I've spent years and incurred a ton of debt getting credentialed enough to enter a career where you're licensed state by state and I can't just transfer my license to another state. I'm in a red state because I really love the area and finally found where I belong, and it just so happens to, unfortunately, be a red state. I would really rather not be thrown to the wolves like that. I'd much prefer a radical restructuring of the existing federal political order aligned with democratic confederalist principles, a very radical kind of Third Founding, especially because my municipality in particular is very blue.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Such a hypothetical president could add some basic terms to their dissolution plan. They would be in a position to organize a treaty between the new nations. And part of the agreement to let states have their independence is that freedom of travel must be preserved between the states, similar to how the EU operates. So people can always vote with their feet and leave.

But if you're asking if we can preserve the nation just to help blue voters in red states, I'm sorry. Ultimately the people of each state are going to have to be responsible for their own fate. I would owe nothing more to the citizens of Alabama than I do the citizens of Azerbaijan. It's your country, not mine. You're responsible for it. If your countrymen want to turn their nation into the seventh circle of Hell, well those are their sins, not ours.

I know it sucks, and it's not fair to a lot of good people. But the likely alternative is that the city you cherish so much will be burned to ashes in the civil war we are inexorably marching towards. Realize, I do not champion as radical a solution as complete national dissolution lightly. If I didn't think the alternative was a horrific and bloody war, I wouldn't think to recommend it.

A second civil war would be so, so much worse than the first one. The destructive technology is so much greater. And we wouldn't even be divided between two nice clear blocks of North and South. We would have fighting between states and within states. And foreign adversaries will be happy to contribute to help fan the flames even more. At least with the first civil war foreign powers were mostly content to ignore the US; it was a remote backwater at the time. But now? The US is a global hegemon, and we have no shortage of adversaries that would love to see us burn. China and Russia will probably be arming both sides of the conflict, just happy to see us tear each other to pieces. I'm worried about millions of people being killed, tens of millions displaced, most of our greatest cities turned into bombed-out wrecks, and our entire society seeing a massive and permanent decline in our quality of life and standard of living. Look at the images of the leveled cities of Syria. That is our future on the path we are currently on.

We could walk that road, or we could have some maturity and wisdom and say, "look, this nation clearly isn't working anymore. It was assembled based on compromises for the world of 1780, and it's no longer working for us." Instead of tearing ourselves apart violently, let's just go for a peaceful national divorce. No one needs to die. We don't have tens of millions made homeless. We don't have to watch as all the great cities and infrastructure we've spent generations building are reduced to bombed-out craters. We can simply walk away with all of our lives, infrastructure, and national wealth intact. Even if the national divorce was a difficult and expensive process, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what we will lose in the civil war that awaits us.

like they give a shit,

Their corporate and rich donors will give them some kickbacks as a thanks. which will be much more than any average citizens can pay.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

The whole Israel thing was just the Democrat Party Establishment practicing how get away with supporting Fascism, abroad were Americans are safe from the consequences so it was easier to get away with it.

Now they're applying all that practice at home.

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

ROFL Democrats are pretty useless these days...I've been calling my representatives, sending letters, and generally being more politically involved to make sure this terrible reconciliation bill dies in a fire. I hope to oust the republicans who represent Kansas too. They are so cursed and incompetent, spineless and weak in the face of donor daddies telling them what to do.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You clearly don’t read congress.gov or watch CSPAN. First, they have no power due to minority. Secondly, they cannot filibuster a reconciliation bill. All they can do is debate provisions and propose amendments. That’s it.

They debated every provision, line-by-line, over four 24+ hour oversight committee hearings. Then Schumer forced the Republicans to read the entire reconciliation aloud over 12 hours. Then they held a record 23-hour amendment “vote-a-rama” to try to limit the provisions.

This is how it went: https://files.catbox.moe/1lwoem.mp4

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

its like senator klobaucher doing the flag bit, its called half-assing, pretend they are actually doing something when its too late.

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[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

People keep spelling Cuck Schumer wrong.

[-] LandCucumber@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's just about as close to doing nothing as you can get to doing nothing.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

2017 - this has to be satire

2018 - oh wow, I didn't know that was a thing

2019 - oh wtf nobody's going to stop him?

2020 - Oh cool, pandemic. He wants to inject bleach and horse juice. Cool cool cool.

2021 to 2024 - the great unfucking

2025 - haha we're so fucked

[-] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A bit bold there with the 21-24 bit, more like "the era of the bated breath"

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

What if my rep is Mike Johnson? I dont think he's ever cared about anyone but himself. I couldn't even protest vote against an under dog last election because the opposition was somehow more MAGA and I didnt want to embolden them with votes.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I live in Oklahoma.

Suicide is really the only option.

[-] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How about moving to a blue state? That's barely going to help but it's a better option than suicide.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With what money?

Because I live in Oklahoma, it’s legal to fire me for being trans, and there is no help for DV, so my ex emptied my bank account and maxed out my credit cards after torturing me.

I’ve applied for jobs elsewhere no luck.

[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

it's fucked. I'm so sorry. I know it's a million times easier said than done, but I can't help myself to not give advice:

join social media groups for the trans community in a blue state, look into the orgs there, see if there's a couch you could crash on. save up what you can for gas or a bus ticket. once you get there, plug into the community, connect with services, find work. it's risky but it's better to try than to give up and die.

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[-] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Eh, they took out every bit of democracy-breaking bullshit they possibly could without a majority as far as I know. They're trying now. I'm holding out a little hope that it won't make it through the house again, even.

[-] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And he came out against Zohran, too. Useless old bag. UPDATE - this was based on a list of Dems that weren't supporting* him that I saw on Lemmy elsewhere. Looks like Schumer has since congratulated him but still not endorsed him. I don't live online and have a job so excuse me for not updating immediately.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm not finding that in the news anywhere.

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