I've installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol)
My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It's basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.
I got to where it expected me to partition the drive manually and noped out. I was doing that in the 90's when I compiled my own kernel. Ain't nobody got time for that today.
I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don't think it'll catch one.
I'm super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.
Btw, I'm on an arch endeavour
I did it once, wrote down all the commands I used in order and then made my own install script. It was a great learning experience
And now you're lost
Installing arch without archinstall is way too much fucking work. I'd much rather spend time fixing the 10% greater likelihood of encountering issues post install than doing all that fucking bullshit manually. The command line is better for a lot of things but configuring partitions and mount points is not one of them. I demand a fuckin gui for that stuff.
I’ve done it both by the book and arch install. Arch install is just nice.
This is why arches based distos are taking off. They help with picking packages etc to save time.
If this was accurate, the ropes would have snapped and Homer would go hurddling to the base of the mountain.
That's what pacman -Syyu is for. The occasional life support failure and forced bug hunting is part of the experience.
command 'pacman' not found
aggressively re-pacstraps
Oh, you use pacstrap and arch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had was cp and install and we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn't know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.
Installing Arch manually is not hard, and there are plenty of step-by-step guides.
Figuring out what you need next and then managing this mess is more complicated.
Source: I installed Arch manually btw
Noted use Archinstall for sanity
Super valid!
My point is: there's little to brag about. But hey, I got that badge anyway.
I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install
You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually
I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.
I've done it, I've gotten the satisfaction from it, but it's not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.
thats fine and thats the exact usecase for arch install. This meme is for people who never install it once manually and use archinstall to get a working configured system.
Wht does it even matter if you don't install Arch manually? Is the whole point of the arch installing? I don't think so, it's using. If you don't find anything joyful in manually installing arch it's perfectly fine to manually install only once to make sure you know how it works. And just use archinstall in every following installation that's not shamefu
No! Heathen! Download the source for every package and compile it yourself! Compile the kernel yourself, compile the compiler yourself! Never script anything, always do every step manually, every time! Using tools that make things convenient and foolproof makes you weak and unappreciative of the real hardship and struggle it requires to checks notes use a personal computer!
Jajja I once tried to install Ungoogled Chromium from AUR, which is done by compiling from source, it took me 4 hours :< I couldn't imagine compiling everything manually that's totally insane
What is this magic? You are telling me that a single command would have spared me an entire day of suffering?
Honestly, I had wayyyy more issues when using archinstall than just installing it normally by the wiki. I might just be stupid though :P
Installed manually first then later using archinstall. I came across an issue that wouldn't format a partition. Saw the issue on github too. So had to format manually and continue.
I gave up and used endeavouros instead.
"We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people."
People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.
"C'mon do you even linux?"
People copy and pasting from the wiki or gpt "pathetic"
Now I kind of want to see just how broken my install gets if I just have ChatGPT guide me through the whole installation.
It gets real messy, lol. I tried to have GPT guide me through figuring out a Node and nvm error in my Arch WSL and it made nightmare spaghetti out of my npm prefix.
It eventually got stuck in a loop of trying to make me do the same two things over and over again and expected different results each time.
I followed the wiki and pulled off a successful install..... On a vm. Once I felt confident and ready I remembered arch install was a thing and thought "sure I'll try it, it'll definetly break and I'll just use the wiki to install" then it worked without a hitch. I'm still running arch with no issues.
I've installed arch several times from scratch. Now if I need to I use archinstall. No shame
Artix:
I've been using arch since archinstall came out. I never installed it reading the wiki.
I sleep like a baby and everything works.
People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?
it's called "distrohopping", and yes. nowadays it's easier to do it in a vm, but less fun
When I started out, I used to change distros like socks lol While you do have to reinstall programs, having a separate /home partition means that you can keep your stuff between changes
I'll confess my first Arch installation was with the script, but in the end I reinstalled manually just to test myself and to have hibernation enabled. Still a noob but I can only go up from here.
Cause following the arch wiki is sooooooo much of an efort
I found the effort was in researching and choosing which components to use, rather than actually installing once chosen. It’s easy if you know exactly what you’re gonna install, but on that first build it definitely takes effort if you want to read into all the options and make educated choices
Installing Arch 'the proper way' is a pilgrimage all Linux users should take. After that, they can fly with EndeavourOS at their convenience.
Went with EndeavourOS instead so at least I have more than an ice cubes chance in hell of not borking my install
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