It's not actually eWaste you can buy a TPM chip for it, or ya know Linux.
Windows 11 doesn't actually need the tpm. They just check: "oh it's Intel 6th gen, it's trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one"
Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still "incompatible"
Their marketing told us the lie "it needs tpm and secure boot" but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not
In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)
I've formatted and installed W11 on dozens of computers and never had it fail once. My gaming rig is an Optiplex from 2014, runs 11 just fine.
Those are newer than the CPU I'm typing this on, they're not waste
They dont officially support windows 11 and the avg users are not going to know any better. It's a grey area scam. They're not worth $400 at all.
I keep repeating this, my i5 750 (2009 pc), oc at 3.6ghz can do any fucking thing most people do with their computer. With a 1060 gpu, It plays like 90% of the games , I've made pro audio and video projects on it, even a small vr game.
Yeah no, calling cap on that.
It'll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.
It'll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.
I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it's twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You're delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025
Fr. I have an OCd 2500k and it was a bottleneck many years ago. Pre Sandy CPUs.... Not a chance it's not a bottleneck.
Yeah, same. That was my first major PC build and it hit its threshold. I used the hell out of it for nearly 6 years, but no way it's playing new games with a 1060.
Serious question, why haven't you upgraded to an i7 yet? They'd have to be super cheap at this point, right?
I used to have that CPU, but found it absolutely dying on it's arse for VR Chat (which is notoriously badly optimised). I got a i5-8400 instead, which is about twice as fast for single threaded work (which is still the main bottleneck for most games). Your overclock would take it a decent amount of the way there, but most people aren't going to do that, and it was getting a bit iffy even when I replaced it. Runs hot as well, I expect.
Since then they've got about twice as fast again. You don't have to spend a lot on them to get that either. A Ryzen 9600X will have me set for the next 15 years (assuming they don't ditch x86 CPUs altogether). AMD being competitive again has down wonders for performance boosts. Motherboards seem a lot more expensive these days though.
Meanwhile I am waiting to buy a good "unsupported by Windows 11" PC cheap this October.
Folks, the sooner you dip your toe into Linux the better. Don't let these mega corps tell you how to use your own stuff. Buck the trends and break free.
I've been thinking about it, but I probably wouldn't be able to run my driving sim gear on it. I think I might get a cheap second-hand laptop to play around with it, though.
That's the way I fully got into it - started off on an old laptop and ~~manifested~~ continued from there.
the lenghts people will go because they refuse to consider the penguin.
Switch to Linux and keep using your current computer. Tell Microsoft to pound sand.
I dont think the people buying these even know what linux is.
... a ten years old PC is...
... that's something from 2015, ...
Oh my! 2015 was 10 years ago?
This is so wrong
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Windows 11 requires 8th gen Intel or newer. You can bypass it but you lose official support and more importantly things will break down the line.
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Those listing are not what I would call "full price"
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You can buy a old 8th gen Intel system off of eBay for less than 100€
Yeah, those are basically Mini PC prices. The CPU alone used to cost more than that.
The specs look perfectly adequate (I'm still running very similar for daily use), and 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM should keep you going no matter how many tabs you open or how bloated your PC gets.
Personally I'd get a new Ryzen Mini PC for that kind of money just for the form factor, but they're hardly a scam. The main issue is that the crowd this is aimed at have very little use for a PC these days.
Oh nooooo, however will I do the needful without Microsoft's world famous blue ribbon customer support.
I thought all Lemmy users were running Linux?
Could you explain why you consider these overpriced/scam? If those use new parts and come with warranty, at least the top one, seems fine. Can you do a breakdown of what it should cost?
My Windows PC has i5-6500 in it and I definitely don't consider it e-waste.
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