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The IDF is a terrorist organization. Prove me wrong.
You know, at one point during this war, I thought, “they’re compelled to service, most of them probably don’t wanna be there, and we can’t hold them responsible for the orders of the state.”
Then I saw some interviews with some IDF soldiers. Then I saw more interviews. And it’s the same in recent interviews: they are happy to be there, and they absolutely love genociding Palestinians.
Fuck the IDF
I still think it's basically brainwshing by government propaganda.
Probably. I’d like some further analysis on that, but I am definitely inclined to agree with you.
They aren't going to let you see the unenthusiastic ones.
They don’t censor foreign internet in Israel. Protesters of the regime can be heard from on the outside, there just aren’t that many of them.
If you’re forced to live in Israel you won’t be publicly voicing your opinions if they’re against the norm. One of the worst insults is “deserter” for those that did not wish to serve and “leftist” if you go against the murder of innocent people. Sadly being one or the other means problems for you down the road when trying to find a job and generally living a life here. It’s a small country, word gets around quickly and you still have to live here if you don’t have any other citizenship.
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There are older documentaries where older IDF recount war crimes and being proud of it.. this been going since the creation of this project .. the two main forces that created the IDF are UK Registered terrorist organization.
Even if it were the case that they didn't want to be there, "just following orders" is not an acceptable excuse for committing a genocide. The morally correct thing to do if you're compelled to service in the IDF is to refuse and face the consequences, because they cannot be worse than the moral injury of being tasked with the murder of innocent children.
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Counterpoint: The IDF isn't a terrorist organization; they're the Wehrmacht.
I don’t know if that’s really a counterpoint. The Nazis started as a terrorist organization.
And I’d argue that, based on available historical evidence, a lot of the Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany, not the Nazis (a subtle distinction, I know, but I think an important one in this context), whereas IDF soldiers, according to many interviews with them, are definitely fighting for both Israel and Zionism. I would argue that IDF soldiers are far more committed to their geo/sociopolitical cause than were the typical soldier in the Wehrmacht.
The IDF’s fascist zeal is more akin to that of the SS. Although, as an organization, the US Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement is far more similar to the Nazi SS.
The Nazis started as a terrorist organization.
True, but they evolved into something more terrible than that, just like Zionist militias did in 1948. I feel that calling the IDF a terrorist organization, while catchy, is an understatement of the depth and scale of evil they're committing and have committed. They're closer to the raping, pillaging and murderous hordes of Genghis Khan.
Yes, your explanation is more succinct. I was just trying to add a bit of historical context and comparative analysis.
The Wehrmacht was sworn to Hitler and to nothing else.
The vast majority of them also joined so they didn’t starve to death. And in the second half of the war, it was forced conscription. They said what they had to say not to get shot in the head. While I don’t doubt that many, even most, were loyal to the Nazis, a lot of of them were not. a great many joined because they had no other choice.
It’s a historical detail that is worth mentioning
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Not all heroes wear capes.
Or shirts apparently
Death, death to the IDF!
Damn tho, it catchy!
You guys have sound? I can't unmute it in Lemmy, and directly on Imgur the unmute is grayed out.
Edit: Hmm, works on Firefox, again
Not the first time some media worked only in Firefox, but not Chrome. Embedded FLAC wouldn't play (despite it being supported), WebSDR audio wouldn't start, from the other times I recall.
Again being reminded to switch.
Maybe it’s because half their raps are in Gaeilge or the BBC just didn’t check, but booking Kneecap and not expecting to hear something about governments and Palestine would be like booking NWA and cutting their mics if they played Fuck the Police.
Great job riling up the crowd for Vylan’s new chant there, genius move.
Lol they basically did that before. They booked Rage Against The Machine to play "Killing in the Name of" live. It has the line "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" and they asked RATM to censor it while they played. The BBC was then somehow surprised when RATM didn't do what they told them. source
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The BBC isn't booking anyone they're just covering Glastonbury festival.
Thing is, afaik, the BBC has nothing to do with booking the artists. They just broadcast the sets and hold them on the iPlayer for a month after. Kneecap (and Bob Vylan) were booked by the Glastonbury organisers.
Brits are so fucking good at chants. Caught the quick rhythm and even the melody in just a bar.
Irish too. The band they cut short just before this has songs that are quite catchy and the theme is ACAB
The BBC are complicit in genocide by censoring the news in favour of Israel.
Anyone got a video of the rest of this set? Searching for it just brings up page after page of genocide apologists getting upset over the warmup.
Someone uploaded it to WeTransfer if you've not found it elsewhere yet.
It's a great set. Big Bob spitting facts from top to bottom.
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Israel is a murder machine.
I can agree with that message
I get knocked down... I get up again
I'll go check his songs now, just from that chant I can tell he has a way with music
If you missed the 2000s anti war punk bands they deliver with a 2025 vibe.
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