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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

I wonder what kind of tunnels hamas have down there.

If I had decades to tunnel under Gaza I'd have at least one vehicle sized tunnel that runs the whole strip for quick movement. If tunnels get discovered they can easily be trapped to collapse so the threat of anyone taking it over and using it as a means to get to your main fortress underground is basically zero.

It would be like an artery with many veins running off it.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Has anyone heard about what the reaction/actions are from Arab/Palestinian Israelis? I have been wondering if we might see something like the labor strikes that happened in 2021.

I went looking for coverage and found this article Al Jazeera just published about Palestinian workers being suspended by their employers:

But on Saturday morning, Noura had no knowledge of any of this. Palestinian armed groups periodically fire rockets into southern Israel that are mostly intercepted by the country’s missile defence system, known as the Iron Dome.

So, when a visibly shaken co-worker spoke to Noura about what had happened, she responded by telling her, “This is not the first time” — a response she now recognises lacked empathy.

But as more details began to come through, and the unprecedented nature of the attack became clearer, Noura was summoned to her manager’s office, told to leave her work and not come back until further notice – because of that earlier conversation with her colleague.

“I felt very insulted, I couldn’t believe this is happening to me,” said Noura, who is one of 1.2 million Palestinians who are citizens of Israel – about 20 percent of the country’s population.

“I feel discriminated against,” she continued. “Day by day, you don’t feel it. But you feel it when something like this happens. You know that automatically you turn from a friend to an enemy.”

Shortly afterwards, she received a letter from the hospital’s management, which Al Jazeera has reviewed, in which she was called to a hearing to formalise her suspension on grounds that she had violated the institution’s disciplinary code, by allegedly supporting the Hamas attack.

Noura denied ever uttering the words she was accused of saying.

“What insulted me the most is that when they called me for the meeting, they had their mind set, the decision had been made. They didn’t want to listen,” Noura said of the hearing, which is expected soon.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/15/from-friend-to-enemy-palestinians-in-israel-suspended-from-jobs-over-war

I would imagine significant parts of the Israeli economy are relying on Arab workers in order to keep the war machine running, similar to the Confederacy's reliance on slave labor during the US Civil War.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

So how's r/combatfootage doing since they banned footage from the Palestinian side, must get boring exclusively watching videos of screaming children and wailing parents

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 year ago

רשת NBC מדווחת: מעבר רפיח ייפתח מחר ב-9 בבוקר ליציאת אזרחים זרים, ובמקביל יתחיל להיכנס סיוע הומניטרי עמיחי שטיין

🆃🅴🅻🅴🅶🆁🅰️🅼 @news_kodkodgroup

The NBC network reports: The Rafah crossing will open tomorrow at 9 am for the departure of foreign citizens, and at the same time humanitarian aid will begin to enter

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Will the bombings get more intelligent if the US takes over command and intelligence for the Israeli army?

Are they likely to stop just indiscriminately bombing the crap out of everything and actually target military targets instead? Seems like Israel are honestly wasting a shit load of resources on mindlessly assaulting civilians and any competent leadership would get this toned down and focused on real targets of value rather than this chest beating shit they're doing.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

https://streamable.com/iooarn

Hamas released 1 woman from Gaza with 2 young children, who were taken to Gaza on October 7. Nothing is known about any agreements yet. Negotiations regarding the hostages are being conducted through Egypt

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 year ago

this is probably fake news, a source on the ground told me they're actually sacrificing women and children to satan

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Security sources deny the occurence of any marching movements from Lebanon, what is happening may be a flock of birds

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

3,000 comments lets fuckin do it, today is a day of histroy lets-fucking-go

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Israel prepares for possible ground assault in Gaza as war deaths mount | AP News

I really like AP's live update page. It seems to be free of sensationalistic bullshit and it's easy to get a link to a particular update. I gave up on Al Jazeera because there's no way to get a simple link to a particular update. They force you to use their social media bullshit.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On Monday, I set the comment Over/Under at 5250. Using a straight-line forecast, we are currently on track for 6200. Given the increasing sense that things are going to pop off after Friday prayer, I am upping the O/U to 7000 comments.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

AP tweet...

The Israeli military said that an earlier warning to residents about "hostile aircraft" entering from Lebanon was a false alarm.

Nitter

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