Russian troops liberate Tolstoy community in Donetsk region over past day : worldnews

[+] gleb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

"Liberated"? Hilarious. That's like saying I "liberated" your wallet, when I took it from your pocket.

[-] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 2 days ago

So, how should we call it when people are "not liberated" from the regime that doesn't let people escape the country and that kidnaps people off the streets and sends them to die in the meatgrinder?

I always thought that the word for that is liberated, but I'd gladly learn a better one :)

[-] caboose2006@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's Russia's fault that anybody is dying. You blame Russia. If Russia leaves then there's no meat grinder. Simple as.

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[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t understand all the cheerleading for this war from both sides. It was caused by bad politics on both sides, and I don’t feel particularly happy when I read about thousands of people loosing their lives.

[-] hankthetankie@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Well Nazis getting killed and people liberated from them is good news. And there was one side that was the aggressor and another one that responded to it.

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

I mean idk if all those people are Nazis though, lots of conscripts in this war.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

Same was in wehrmacht, but still not sad for them.

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

I mean, I feel sorry for people who get propagandised and convinced to die for a fruitless cause but maybe that’s just me.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

I get what you mean, so i am rooting for the fascist regime to lose as fast as possible. Also being conscripted does not free from the responsibility for participation in war crimes, as established in Nuremburg "i was following orders" is not sufficient line of defense.

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Idk to me this is a stereo typical bourgeois war. I don’t think there is a good side really.

[-] hankthetankie@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago

Perhaps. Killing them is still justified. The forced conscription is done by the regime the west installed after the coup.

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t think the Ukraine under Russia would be any better than Ukraine under the USA, I think people just enjoy looting the country. I don’t see a difference between two competing bourgeoise parties scrambling to control a very corrupt country.

[-] hankthetankie@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

It's not about Ukraine , that's just the playing field. The west did a coup to use Ukraine to move position east, there would not have been a war at all if that was not the case. People smarter than me have been warning about the coming war in Ukraine since the 90s

[-] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 37 minutes ago

I’m aware, but either way this war doesn’t seem to revolutionary in anyway, it’s just two opposing capitalist countries fighting. I’m not really rooting for either side. I don’t know if either side has the Ukrainians people’s best interest at heart. The Russian bourgeoise was just robbing Ukraine and now the American bourgeoise are just using them as cannon fodder. Fuck all those people.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

.worlders need to expand their list of rote insults, they're getting repetitive

[-] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

They'll never tell you the truth over there at nazi.world 😉

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[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Hopefully Ukraine would liberate it back and eventually win the special operation

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[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

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[-] jackeroni@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Friend, most of the bad stuff you've heard about Russia/Putin has come out of the western propaganda machine headed by the US empire to discredit communism everywhere. You have probably been fed lies your whole life, I understand that must be a difficult thing to reconcile so just have an open mind! 😀

[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 13 hours ago

If that US media empire wanted to discredit communism, there is no reason to write about Russia, (another) authoritarian imperialist dictatorship.

[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world -4 points 22 hours ago

My friend. I know enough about what is and isn't propaganda to know that you are completely full of shit. Take your fascism to another corner of the internet where you can talk about how everybody else is a Nazi and you aren't lol

[-] Aristotelis@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Russia signed for Donetsk to stay independant and neutral. They broke both promises.

[-] hankthetankie@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What ? You mean the occupying forces of Ukraine wasn't allowed to incorporate them in their new Reich? Good thing they were liberated by the Russian as the people of Donetsk says.

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