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I mean...is that not assumed to be the default? Cell phone surveillance is pretty much just business as usual in this country is it not?
This is illegal without a warrant. And judges have been denying broad sweeping warrants that would cover such situations.
We are in different times. This administration doesn't care about warrants.
It honestly doesn't care about "illegal" much either 😅
*so long as the perpetrator is of an appropriate skin tone or works for a government agency
insert Family Guy skin tone terrorist meme
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never did. us three-letter-agencies have been buying data to get around pesky laws for a while now.
Pretty sure this kind of thing has been illegal since before Edward Snowden became a whistleblower, tbh. The US Government hasn't cared about people's privacy and the laws surrounding it for decades.
pardon me, sir, but this is illegal withou-
click
hey! Uncuff me! This is illegal!
car door shuts
Hey! Let me out of this car!
vroooooom
Where are we going!? You can't take me to jail!
arrives at jail
Dear family, they call this place prison, it looks like prison, and I've been issued what they're calling a "lawyer", but impossible as that may be considering they didn't have a warrant, I can only deduce that I've been kidnapped by a vigilante to a remote location pretending to be a prison!
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Even though most of the comments here point out the obvious that phones are a risk, this kind of journalism is still important for spreading awareness and documentation of illegal surveillance for the record
Yeah lemmy is mostly a left echo chamber, which is generally a net positive. But someone like my cousin who still gets their news from Facebook but might want to protest now they are thinking about their views would benefit from this journalism
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once again.
do not take your phone to a protest
And cover your damn face.
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So basically, one could go to ICE protest and troll with fake conversations about attack points and watch them scatter to control nonexistent issues.
better be VERY coded language that a jury would agree is innocent in nature and intent.
might be better to have a bunch of gibberish with a few named places.
They might think it's code and deploy there, and you're not actually making a legitimate threat they could come after you for somehow.
Yes, but they would probably arrest you instead.
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One thing I'm noticing in these comments, and in a lot of comments threads is the "well yeah, duh. Everyone already knew that" and while I'm definitely in that camp and have done that myself, I am starting to wonder if there is danger there.
Like, this is a significant breach of privacy and trust and the kind of thing that we should be up in arms about. But we already assume the government is doing the worst movie villain shit imaginable, so when we have evidence of it we shrug it off as just another Tuesday.
Yeah, waters wet. We should still be alarmed when we see a puddle of it somewhere it shouldn't be. (I don't know if that analogy actually tracks but I'm sticking with it).
You're not wrong, but these days the number of members of the public that truly cares (to point of taking action) about privacy is an extreme minority.
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I mean who doesn't know this cmon
Could AI be used to create a bunch of useless chatter in the airways that they would have to sift through and waste their time? Maybe use AI for actual good.
IMSI spoofing is a product of wireless telephony being an ancient (way-pre-internet) technology, and we're long in an era where law enforcement (or in this case law-enforcement coded) investigators don't have to obey laws, such as assuring due process, and unreasonable searches disqualifying evidence. Instead they're hunting political enemies, and every prisoner of the United States is now a political prisoner.
It also means we don't have to obey the law, and can start using all-frequency jammers in and around protests and ICE actions to level the playing field. (It will also interfere with regular infrastructure, but it's not like ICE or the current regime gives half a fuck about that.
All-frequency jammers are older tech and easier to build than IMSI spoofers, and are highly illegal since so much of our commerce and communications depend on radio. But the current FTC has also been captured and is failing to do its job.
Any Amateur Radio enthusiast will know how to make a jammer. And current battery technology would assure you could make a handful that are portable and powerful enough to shut down blocks and blocks of municipal communication. This is playing pretty hardball, but then ICE isn't playing by the rules.
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if you've ever used a radar detector you know, people drive like they are always being watched. not often in my experience. doubt these dolts are real sophisticated. fear is their main weapon.
Please dont take your fucking phone to a protest. Buy a burner if you must.
You will be tracked. And spied on. And facial recognitioned. Etc.
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You probably wouldn't want to bring a phone to some types of events, but as the number of these events increase, the odds of you just happening to be close to such an event during the course of a normal day might increase. Maybe it's best if we turn off 2g reception on our phones. No reason to be swept up in warrantless sweeps if not necessary.
IMSI catchers. It's known at least for 10 years now, that they get used on protests in US.
Would a burner phone be susceptible to this kind of attack?
Yes, but then you get rid of it immediately. Also, don't activate it or have it on at home or any other place that can be associated with you. Only do so after paying with cash and at the location where you're going to use it then dispose of it.
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Sure but no phone also works.
I wonder if it would be possible to extend the capabilities of the software to triangulate the location of a a Stingray or other false tower with a few more of those devices working in concert in the same area.
How does one build a scanner to detect anomalies consistent with IMSI catchers?
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