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CW: self-harm, psychological issues

AKA how off the rails can your show go?

I know I'm a little late to the party since the show ended like a year ago but Evil is an American show that ran for 4 seasons on CBS and Paramount+ from 2019-2024.

The show starts out as a grounded procedural about a team of investigators (2 skeptics and 1 priest) working for the catholic church who analyze how psychological, physiological and environmental conditions might convince people that they or someone they love is possessed by a demon. There is nothing supernatural in the first season of the show and every demon sighting is explained with trauma, dreams and hallucinations.

SPOILERS BELOW

spoilerBy the fourth and final season of the show, the priest is a super powered psychic assassin working for the catholic CIA who provide him GPS coordinates and it allows him to jump into people's minds, take over their bodies and make them kill themselves.

The catholic CIA is introduced in a storyline where a Chinese-American catholic prophet is deported to China and put in a slave labor camp because being Christian is illegal in China. It's also heavily implied that China is straight up run by the devil since the main devil worshipper on the show says the "weeger camps" are run by the devil. There's also an episode with a haunted toy store and the resolution is just that it's prisoners in a Chinese slave camp trying to send out messages in the toys. They pulled the story straight from the dumbass fake shoe message tweet.

The skeptic characters also stay skeptic to a ridiculous degree despite everything they witness in the later seasons. In one episode they fly from Rome to New York with a demonic box and the demonic box takes over the plane, blasts screams and stuff through the speaker system and almost crashes the plane. All of this stops when the priest pours holy water on it and it literally melts away in front of everyone. In the next episode the skeptics are back to "oh, you and your silly demons" like they didn't just see that shit.

I kinda hated the show by the end but at the same time I have some respect for just how ridiculous they managed to turn everything.

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[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

I watched the first two episodes and was like, "this show is just gonna get worse from here, isn't it?". I'm glad my instincts about these things are occasionally correct.

Also, since you've seen the show, can you please tell me:What's up with that demon who was in the main character's dreams, as well as her daughter's dreams? You know, the one who liked to slice hands between the fingers? Does he become a recurring antagonist? Could you give me the cliffnotes version of the story arc involving that demon? It's the only part of the show I'm slightly interested in. Thanks!

[-] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

spoilerThe reason Kristen and her daughter have nightmares about the same demon is because he's a character in a Netflix show they've watched at some point and it got stuck in their subconscious. After Kristen learns this, she shows her daughters some behind the scenes videos about how movie monsters are created by makeup artists so they know it's not real and learns how to lucid dream to take control of her own nightmares.

A few seasons later we see him again as he pops up in Kristen's nightmares again and a nun who can see demons spots him in their house so I guess he was real all along, undercutting the original storyline.

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Thanks!I remember the "he's fake" thing, that happened right at the end of the second episode, but I didn't buy it, it seemed pretty clear to me that he wasn't actually fake and I assumed the show meant for us to understand that "he's just a Netflix monster" was wishful thinking on the part of the main character. Weird that it takes so long for him to pop back up again though, it really felt to me like the show was setting him up to be a pretty important antagonist.

[-] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

spoilerYeah, he's essentially pointless after the first 2 episodes.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

this is the consequence of saying continuity isn't important

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I first saw clips of this show on youtube and got interested enough to start watching it; when I realized the supernatural elements were imaginary I lost all interest. I like supernatural shows, not shows like this, which is a shame because the clips I saw of the supernatural elements looked genuinely funny at times, and the costumes were pretty awesome.

I really don't want to watch just another procedural with no (or according to your spoiler, almost no) supernatural elements. I'd been hoping for something akin to grimm or supernatural.

[-] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I'm the complete opposite. I started disliking the show when they started going camp with the supernatural stuff. I liked it when it was grounded.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

I had to watch this show with my mom. It was okay, but I really hate procedurals and "monster of the week" stories. The practical effects were great, especially for TV shows which have smaller budgets than films. There were too many different storylines going on creating serious implications for the world building.

It's definitely a Boomer show, written by Boomers for Boomers. The technobable was the worst part of it. So many episodes seemed like something the writers saw on r*ddit and decided to make an episode about it. They mentioned they had people who comb social media for plot ideas. They did not consult actual experts in these subjects, however. The lucid dreaming and "China Bad!" plots are prime examples.

And then it just kind of ends. So I guess none of these stories mattered because Katya moves her kids to Rome, divorces her husband, and continues to have a weird relationship with Michael the priest because Allah forbid we make stories without romance subplots.

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I watched as far as the episode where the incel guy accidentally shoots himself while posing in front of a mirror to psych himself up to do a mass shooting.

The constant showing demons and then walking it back immediately was too much and I couldn't be arsed to watch further.

Does that evil psychiatrist getting counselling from Satan pay off later?

[-] MarxusMaximus@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To expand upon what Belly_Beanis said, Leland works for the forces of Hell quite literally. He works for a company called Demonic Forces(DF for short) and they have departments like misinformation (troll farms) and crypto currency. I'm not really sure why they have their own crypto currency but they do.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah it turns out Satan is real and the evil psychiatrist is working for the forces of Hell to bring about the End of Days. He regularly meets with other demons, who often disguise themselves as normal humans. Humans in league with them or who have a particularly strong faith can see the demons' true forms.

this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2025
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