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A homeowner in Goodyear, Arizona is locked in a dispute with his homeowner's association over his practice of distributing free cold water from his driveway.

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[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 31 points 1 week ago

The good news is he read the HOA agreement, initiated a special meeting through signatures, and now the neighborhood is holding a special election to remove the dickhead board members.

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Thank you, comment that summarises what's in the article, I was afraid I might have to read the article to get the full picture.

[-] j0ester@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And the update is… fuck off, 210 votes is not counted for. Someone updated the comments

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ugh this isn't what HOAs are for!

HOAs are intended to harass and discriminate against black and brown people so that they don't move in, or at least immediately leave.

Not white guys with majestic beards.

He must've been giving water to black or brown people, it's the only justifiable reason.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

HOA's are for people who used to be in positions of perceived power at work but now they're retired and they miss bossing/bitching at people.

They're for people who don't feel dominated enough by daddy government so they add another layer.

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HOAs are intended to harass and discriminate against black and brown people so that they don’t move in

Lol I was going to make a joke here about "Redline Homes Inc." - but it turns out there really is such a company, in Oklahoma of course.

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[-] Griffus@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago

What a dystopian hell hole. My condolences to everyone having something like HOA in their lives. May you all experience a civilised and free country at some point.

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

The HOA I live in doesn't allow motorcycles in the driveway. Garage only.

I have two. They take up more room than you'd expect.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I see many homeless people in my area, I am more withdrawn but I always think of grabbing a case of water for our hot times to hand out, even if it may not be cool. Sort of too shy to follow through previously but it gets like 30-40C this part of Canada in the summer and we sort of need water to live.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My favorite HOA conflict:

https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/epic-hoa-parking-boot-battle.572540/

TL;DR - HOA boots a car parked outside a guys house. He puts the car up on dollies and pushes it into his garage.

They accuse him of stealing the boot.

He tells them they can come get it any time they want.

They tell him it's $140 to remove the boot.

He tells them "Nah, it's cool, I don't need to drive the car." LOL.

Edit Also in Arizona... Something in the water down there?

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

I got booted at university once so I just changed my tire and took the boot with me

Now they use 2 boots

[-] syreus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I bought a boot removal tool my first year of college and was the savior of my friend group.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't the boots cover the lug nuts?

[-] LikeableLime@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

On some of them you can just let the air out of the tire and slip them off the wheel. I did that at a parking garage one time and left the boot in the parking spot.

They found me later and said I stole it, I told them to check the camera footage and they saw someone else carry the thing off. I don't know how I got out of that one but I guess they just went after the other guy instead of me lol

[-] seralth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Most boots are also trivially easy to pick open for even an armature.

They arnt generally well made

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Folks in my area used to cary around crowbars (the half life style long ones for crates and shit) back when the sheriff deputies were boot happy for a bit. This was before cameras so they couldn't do much when they found the damned things snapped didn't help that folks would do it to any car they saw with a boot.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

guy with a crowbar walking down the street

"After all, why shouldn't I do it?"

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Fair warning for anyone who wants to boot my car I own a cordless angle grinder...

[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They can get you for destruction of property then. Luckily most non-law enforcement use cheap ass boots. I had an apartment complex boot an old truck of mine because I let the registration expire on since I was about to trade it in for a new(er) car. I simply deflated the tire enough to wiggle it free and threw it in a bush, then I pumped the tire back up and drove it to a Walmart parking lot for a couple of days.

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[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I found an update about the vote to remove the three board members.

Homeowners voted 190 to 20 in favour of removal, however the board cancelled the vote claiming there wasn't a 24 hour notice given to the community and subsequently that 210 votes might not qualify a quorum of more than a thousand homes.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago

Oh, that will go well. Piss off people and make their vote not count. The people that know where you live and can see your front door...

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

To play devil's advocate for a moment, having a sufficient vote notification period is important.

Though if that were the board's true concern, they surely would have announced intention to notify the community alongside their statement cancelling the vote for this reason, which hasn't happened insofar as I can tell.

Voting details:According to recent census data, Goodyear has 2.7 people per household. It doesn't say for the city specifically, but Arizona appears to have a minor population of 21%. I saw in the statement this association represents "over 1,000" households. In my experience, that could mean anywhere from 1,001 - 1,099 homes. The city of Goodyear held a vote earlier this year to approve a water utility contract, which lists an expected voter turnout of 17%.

By this, I'm guessing less than 3,000 people live in this community, with about 2,400 eligible to vote on an association proposal, but likely around 400 people that would go to the effort of voting on such a tedious issue.

I think that if half of the community shows up with less than a day's notice to make themselves heard, that's probably representative enough for how the community feels about these board members.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

I appreciate your comment.

I dislike administrative issues on votes being called out by the board after the vote takes place. When administrative issues are noted after the vote, it looks like the board is trying to subvert the membership.

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[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Those kinds of shenanigans get HOAs nullified by court order.

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[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

HOAs seem like they should be illegal. Having a contract in perpetuity that is attached to the purchase of property seems like it shouldn't be allowed. So it is not only bound to the person who originally signed, but to whoever purchases the relevant property afterwards, and that gives other people rights over you that can be changed afterwards and are only limited by their conscience.

I basically don't think you should be able to create a government by using a contract.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

HOAs are the direct result of racists trying to work around de-jure segregation being abolished, so yeah.

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

I basically don't think you should be able to create a government by using a contract.

It's basically what Anarco-capitalism wants to do. Incidentally, HOAs form the best real world argument against Anarco-capitalism.

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[-] joostjakob@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

How anyone that lives in a country that has HOAs can unironically call it "land of the free" is beyond me

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"ProPTeRy VaLUes!"

No one sees any value in just living in their homes. They have to be statements on your personal wealth, and though that, statements on your character as a human being. Living under the thumb of narcissists is a small price to pay so your neighbor doesn't look poor.

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[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

If you’re in a state with ballot measures, then you could campaign for rules against single family home HOAs.

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

HOA seems to be such a stupid thing. Glad there's nothing even remotely that bad everywhere.

[-] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

He thought HOA meant hand outs available. It’s blazing hot af, who would care for some cold water? Yeah, what a turd this guy is. Goddamn hoa needs to stroke out & get a new board.

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Man, I could never live with an HOA. It’s just dumb.

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[-] leftthegroup@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

I would give HOA murderers a get out of jail free pass, honestly.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

No good deed goes unpunished.

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