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How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don't want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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For all the right wingers who think woke, pro immigrant superman is a new concept, reminder that this is a poster from the 1950s

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago

Superman fighting the klan didn't work because adults laughed at their hand signs and shit that were disclosed...

It's because it got a generation of kids to see the klan as the bad guys

If Superman hated you, how the fuck were you going to indoctrinate your kid into the klan?

That's why they're always bitching about media. The people doing it are ignorant, but the ones telling them what to be mad about it are picking logical targets to fufil longterm goals.

It's why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can't reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it's a lifestyle.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.

Can confirm. 330lbs I said "I'll reach 320."

At 320 I said I'll reach 310.

At 310 I said 300.

At 300 I said 290.

Then 280.

Then 270.

Then 260.

Then 250.

Then 240.

I went back up to 250. Oh no no no no no. Fuck that shit. I'm going to see 240. And when I do, it'll set my sights on 230.

And when I see 230, I will hug someone. Because that will be 100lb.

Which means I'll look to 220.

And then 210.

And 200.

I don't know where my weight loss journey ends. I don't know when I'll feel at a healthy weight.

I just know I hope my journey brings me to a day when I get to punch a nazi.

Because nazi lives DON'T matter!

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

You're gonna do it brudduh, don't stop bettering yourself :)

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

The last thing you said is why I got one of my bans on Reddit. Fuck Reddit.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

The horrible thing about it all is that saying you should always punch Nazis was an uncontroversial statement even as recently as three years ago.

The only reason it's now considered a terroristic threat is because powerful figures have started openly identifying with fascism.

We need to be saying it more, not less.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Well. Your journey took real strength. Ain't that something? Keep fighting the good fight.

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[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Holy shit you're right.

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[-] Walop@sopuli.xyz 61 points 1 week ago
[-] missingno@fedia.io 58 points 1 week ago

Propaganda is powerful. You convince your followers that some classes of people don't deserve kindness, you convince them that everything out of Hollywood is part of a leftist agenda, and once they believe both of those statements it's very easy to spin this as further proof of the narrative they've already bought into.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Hey, fascists don't deserve kindness.

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[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm just baffled because not only is it way easier to not hate people, it's way more beneficial for everyone.

These people are taking two mile hikes to find the perfect deer shit to shove down their throats.

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[-] sdcSpade@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago

Probably the same idiots who thought Homelander was a hero.

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[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago

I really don't know how to convince people they should care about others.

I don't know how to teach empathy.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cause Americans are obsessed with Rugged Individualism.

If you are in trouble, you don't accept help, much less ask for it. You pull yourself up by your bootstraps and turn your fortunes around with grit and determination using nothing more than the loose change in your pocket.

Thats how anyone that needs help became nothing more than social parasites leeching off the rugged individualistic success of their betters.

Thats why Americans, on the whole, have all but erased empathy and good will towards others.

Its why 1/3rd of the country actively votes for weak, pathetic fascists who poorly playact as strongmen. Its why 1/3rd of the country didnt bother voting, because they have no problem with fasciatic strongmen punishing the weak and the other.

The New Religion of the American Orthodoxy is basically "Fuck you, Got Mine".

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I like the Nathan Fillion comment during some red carpet interview when the interviewer was trying to egg him into saying something that would get rage clicks from one side or the other of the current political trash fire.

"its just a movie guys"

Superman was not a brooding edge lord until Snyder's take outside of specific story runs, and it is obvious that a lot of people don't know that.

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Captain Hammer best superhero, who's with me on this

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I so want a sequel to the sing along blog.

Dr Horrible has become obsessed with reviving Penny by turning back time. He doesn't care how many people need to die, because he believes he can "fix" things. But the risk of time travel is the destruction of the universe...

Captain Hammer, now knowing what pain is, has two choices, grow and overcome the pain, or continue to hide away...

And Penny. The multiple zombies, and clones, and computer simulations of Penny that were never "right". Well, she too has her parts to play.

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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

this is what those people want.

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[-] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People angry that Superman represents kindness

Do these people exist? Is it just one troll, or a significant enough of a population to even give the slightest bit of thought?

[-] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

Look at how many Americans would voluntarily die themselves just to prevent "unworthy" people from getting free health care.

These people exist.

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Pain is the point for them

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

I frequent dive bars. I have met plenty of people who believe in kindness, and love, and Jesus and shit - but not for immigrants, not for non-white people, not for criminals of any level. I straight up have had these people say this to my non-white face and then say, "oh but you don't count because you have a job" or "you don't count because you aren't a drug addict". Etc. etc.

These people suck fucking dick and I want them all to die.

It's fucking ironic too when these same people talk about smoking weed, or stealing from big box stores self-checkouts, or vandalizing some dude's car.

"Rules for thee, not for me."

I read local obituaries solely to celebrate when I see some of these people die.

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[-] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I've met countless people who hate morals and will tell you you're an idiot if you treat other humans as equals

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[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's one guy making the propaganda right now, but I assure you, in a week, everyone in your family that you try not to talk to will be spouting this horseshit.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's amazing how many people think admitting to being an asshole is a flex.

[-] Aetherion@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

It seems like Superman is the hero we deserve to fight this fascist trash sitting in the White House and beyond.

We need more of these positive representations, and god I'm so glad that almost every hateful right-winger cannot be creative with something other than hate.

This movie gives me hope, but I cannot speak for you.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

zack snyder and cristopher nolan turned goofy do-gooder superheroes into unfeeling federal agents and gods we should be subservient to

[-] lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Kidness is woke. And you know, woke is bad because reasons.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Why batman is the worst superhero, just another billionaire...

[-] Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub 9 points 1 week ago

Ironman is another billionaire.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Conservatives are still mad that Superman fought the kkk.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

They don't want Superman, they want Brightburn.

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[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

Idk, I always thought Superman was cool, but a little boring and vanilla. I normally prefer Batman. Admittedly, I've never dived down the Superman lore pit, but I am aware that he gets a little darker sometimes. He's definitely one of the better role model heroes. Anyone that actually hates Superman, is a dipshit.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dunno', batman is cool, but he's an ineffectual LARPer that refuses to do the ONE thing that would actually start to fix things in Gotham...

That and he's a billionaire that decides to keep up the playboi image despite his escapades demonstrably having a miniscule effect on crime in Gotham compared to him just using his billions to actually help solve the systemic issues in Gotham's economy that drives so many to crime in the first place.

In short, Batman is everything wrong with the American attitude about capitalism.

At least Superman has the excuse that he is not an economic powrhouse that actually could indirectly improve thousands upon thousands of peoples' lives. ... as weirdly as an all-powerful being not being an economic powerhouse is.

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[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

In fiction, hard agree; in reality, I'd summon super man over bat man pretty quick. I think he's boring because he doesn't leave much room for interesting conflict. irl, I don't want interesting conflict lol

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[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I’m curious how this movie is, I’m used to the older ones and a show called Smallvile.

I did not know there was some anger about this Superman movie. Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

Though bit bummed out that they keep remaking movies and shows instead of making new ones.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

People on Facebook are telling me he isn't an immigrant, he's from outer space. I'm so confused as to what they think an immigrant is

[-] Fluke@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

Literally an illegal alien, and they refuse to see it.

[-] 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

The most illegal alien. Smallville had an episode where Clark helped hide an undocumented migrant. His mom tried to chastise him and he had to remind her his own paperwork is shady as hell.

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This movie won me over when I saw Krypto and the fortress Bots. That’s the kind of stuff I’ve always wanted, but then idiots like Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan (who clearly hate and are embarrassed by the source material) show up and want to make everything dark and “realistic” so characters like krypto don’t make it to the movies. Fuck realism, im watching a movie about a super alien fighting monsters, i don’t want realism in my comic book movies

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[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

I 100% expected this movie to suck and was even saying up to its release that it would flop.

I've seen all the Superman movies since the 80s. And all the TV shows.

This is my favorite movie.

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[-] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have a theory of society that is 30-30-30 based around a narcissistic spectrum. 30% of the population at any given time is narcissistic to some extent. They are conceited in their interactions with society.

We live in a time of decline. This is creating stress throughout the population. How people react to this stress shows their true character. The narcissistic leaning people, during these times of stress, look for scapegoats. If we just eliminate these types of people, we can go back to the good times. They are the fascists throughout history. When fascism and mindless violence rises during times of decline, it is due to this latent population, which is always there but only activated by the stress of decline.

The other groups are the 30% who are altruistic and cooperative. They interact with society by seeing what can be built by all and the value of different types of people. They have won the day too throughout history, but a society the averts disaster by coming together and rebuilding is just a society that continued to be successful. They are little noted as they do not bring the great calamities and destruction that get written down in the history books.

The final group are the 30% who are ambivalent. They don't engage with politics in a meaningful way and have little willpower. They see life as a fate to be endured. Whichever way the wind blows, they will follow, or at least, endure it.

The balance determines which side wins. It is influenced by the power structures of the day, the zeitgeist and the strength of propaganda and the leaders of each side. It's fairly clear which side is winning now and I don't see the altruistic side coming to save the day any time soon.

Often times, when altruism does prevail, it is because someone with great courage that is a member of the existing power structure leads their cause. There are no such people at this time. Our power structure has explicitly embraced greed and sociopathy for 50 years now. Everyone who is successful now has been a part of that system and is thoroughly corrupted by it.

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