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[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

From my outside perspective, it's the pledge of allegiance.

Do you really have your kids stand up every morning and swear an oath to your flag? That's some real cult shit.

I had a teacher in elementary school that taught us that when a flag falls on the floor, you’re supposed to kiss it.

Yes, seriously.

It was just part of the normal flag-worship we were ~~taught~~ brainwashed with.

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[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And then berate them for thinking that the ideals espoused in that pledge are real in any way.

Nothing could be more American than that pledge: it was something that was first propagated by a flag company that was trying to sell more flags.

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"In 1891, Daniel Sharp Ford, the owner of the Youth's Companion, hired Bellamy to work with Ford's nephew James B. Upham in the magazine's premium department. In 1888, the Youth's Companion had begun a campaign to sell US flags to public schools as a premium to solicit subscriptions. For Upham and Bellamy, the flag promotion was more than merely a business move; under their influence, the Youth's Companion became a fervent supporter of the schoolhouse flag movement, which aimed to place a flag above every school in the nation. Four years later, by 1892, the magazine had sold US flags to approximately 26,000 schools. By this time the market was slowing for flags but was not yet saturated."

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

First thing that comes to mind for me is the huge number of people who are religious fanatics here, which is unusual for a Western country. This is also a big part of what led us to the fascist government we have today.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I think you’ve kinda missed the lede - religious fanatics. We’ve got plenty of those. Other western countries have quite a few religious people, but they aren’t often in-your-face cross wearing, “I’m a Christian”, openly judgy Karens like they are here.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I specified religious fanatics because they're the problem, not religious people in general.

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in Europe, someone tells me their are Christian or are wearing a cross, it's no big deal.

in the US, it's a massive red flag

[-] jawa21@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Fuck you, Jerry Falwell. Fuck you.

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[-] rozodru@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

for me it's the whole "don't tread on me" and gun culture rhetoric. Americans seem to be "don't push me" but when they actually get pushed they're all "uWu please more daddy" it's odd.

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can explain this one. Growing up in America, you're constantly told that you're a patriot simply because you were born here—like just existing in the same country where Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington lived 250 years ago somehow makes you part of their legacy. It's pushed on you so early and so hard that you don't even question it. You just go to school, and the first thing you do is stand and pledge allegiance to the state—together, as a group. It’s ritualistic. It functions like a cult mechanism. That’s how it gets ingrained.

Most Americans do not have an understanding that they are being tread on.

[-] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

MKULTA and COINTELPRO were pretty wild. Operation Northwoods as well. And the FBI basically admitted to assassinating Dr King. By the 1990s they learned to eliminate the paper trails, so probably no telling who actually knew what regarding 9/11 or the 20 trillion dollars that vanished into thin air during Iraq and Afghanistan

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

What am I gonna do about it?

Listen here you bastard: Nothing, that's what!

Oh wait, that's probably why they keep doing it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Weirdest thing? It's the guns. Definitely the prevalence of guns in the hands of civilians.

Oh. And also how they eat as if their healthcare was affordable.

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[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago
  • Gun culture
  • Making houses out of wood. To me, someone from a country where houses are made of brick, this is like living in a shed. Also, the USA is the hotspot of tornadoes, so it makes even less sense
  • One of the richest countries in the world, and universal healthcare isn't a thing
[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Making houses out of wood.

This is fine. Lumber was historically plentiful in North America, and lumber houses last just as long as stone or brick.

Lumber has several advantages over stone/concrete/brick:

  • Less CO2 impact from construction activities. Concrete production is a huge contributor to atmospheric CO2.
  • Greater sustainability in general. Concrete is approaching a global sand shortage, because most sand in the world doesn't have the right qualities to be included in concrete.
  • Better energy efficiency and insulation properties. Brick homes need double walls in order to compete with the insulation properties of a wood framed house that naturally has voids that can be filled with insulation.
  • Better resilience against seismic events and vibrations (including nearby construction). The west coast has frequent earthquakes, and complying with seismic building code with stone/masonry requires it to be reinforced with steel. The state of Utah, where trees and lumber are not as plentiful as most other parts of North America, and where seismic activity happens, has been replacing unreinforced masonry for 50+ years now.
  • Easier repair. If a concrete foundation cracks, that's easier to contain and mitigate in a wood-framed house than a building with load-bearing concrete or masonry.

Some Northern European and North American builders are developing large scale timber buildings, including timber skyscrapers. The structural engineers and safety engineers have mostly figured out how to engineer those buildings to be safe against fire and tornadoes.

It's not inherently better or worse. It's just different.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

A brick home wouldn’t withstand a tornado either. Like if a tree hits a brick house it would do significant damage to the house. And most brick houses still have a timber roof under the roof tiles so even a small tornado could lift the roof off the house.

Here is a brick house hit by a small tornado in England

Reinforced concrete is a much better material for a hurricane and tornado resistant building. Also shape of the house is important. A dome would be the best.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A wood-framed house isn't necessarily weaker than a brick house.

Wood is pliable and doesn't suddenly crumble and collapse when it's stressed. And it weighs WAY less when it does fail.

If you're in a tornado or earthquake, would you rather be trapped beneath 120 pounds of sheetrock, insulation, and shingles or a 2 tons of broken, jagged rock?

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Living here, I will tell you that the insistence on building houses in a neo-colonial style in tornado alley, hurricane prone areas, or in a middle of a yearly flood plane, baffles me. We should have completely different architectural styles adpated to withstand the elements at this point. You know, what housing is supposed to be for in the first place? /rant

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[-] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

That it spreads globally even though everybody else looks down on it and calls Americans dumb. It makes sense considering that it's the most consumer oriented but it's still weird.

[-] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

all their culture about being lovable good guys who do a goof and like their music

IRL they are the most joyless, dispassionate people who inflict nothing but misery on the world and each other

i say dispassionate but they do love

  • caging people

  • abandoning their sick and elderly

  • poisoning their own children

  • bombing hospitals

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[-] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

As a German I don't understand why the USA basically do have two political parties. I know there are technically other parties but they have no impact.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago
  1. Because first past the post electoral systems always result in a 2 party system due to defensive voting.

  2. Because Americans didn't listen to George Washington, when during his farewell address he strongly cautioned against "alternate domination" of a 2 party system.

  3. Because Americans are woefully uneducated, dis-interested, and preoccupied.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And because now that it's entrenched, the two parties will collude even past the death of the country to keep it that way

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This comment from another post here on Lemmy says it all.

I was listening to the 5-4 podcast recently and they repeatedly stressed the point that Trump has lost ≈90% of lower court decisions and won ≈90% of Supreme Court decisions, which is an absurd swing. I’ll try to dig up a source on it though. Still it’s blatantly obvious that the SC has completely abandoned the rule of law and the constitution.

Without rule of law, we're no longer a country.

[-] dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

There’s some structural reasons (the senate, primarily) that American politics will almost inevitably devolve into two parties.

If I could do one thing to fix American politics it would be to abolish the senate, which gives low population states an insanely unbalanced level of influence over national politics.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Because first past the post electoral systems always result in a 2 party system due to defensive voting.

Nope. FPTP is the norm worldwide and two party systems very much the exception. Even in the US, it's only been the last third or so of the country's history that two have managed to become so all-conquering in spite of being so unrepresentative.

George Washington, when during his farewell address he strongly cautioned against "alternate domination" of a 2 party system.

Pretty sure he was very much against the concept of political parties in general, rather than having any preference as to how many.

But yeah, the two major parties HAVE pretty much embodied all his worries and more..

Because Americans are woefully uneducated, dis-interested, and preoccupied.

That's a big part of the problem, sure, but the issues of regulatory capture and the two parties themselves being in charge of how the entire system works (including the barriers to entry for everyone else) is MUCH more critical.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

Because they don't do proportional voting like you Germans or we Austrians do, most of their elections (and all federal ones) have one winning candidate in a state or congressional district.

And there is mostly not even a requirement for 50% of the vote, but the candidate with most votes wins. That creates the two party system.

The parties in the US are much broader than in our countries, it's very common for different members of the same party to vote against each other.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Exactly, what that means is that we have a tactical concern where the more voters represented by an elected official and the more disparate they are the worse of an idea it is for you specifically to split a vote. That's actually why Abraham Lincoln (the guy who was president during our civil war and oversaw the abolition of chattel slavery) won his election.

This creates the irony of it being somewhat common to have a lot of differing meaningful political choices for city council, third parties being not rare in state government, third parties being very rare in the national congress (though some independents will happen, notably from weird states like Vermont, which is a very rebellious in a cool way state), and third parties only win the presidency in times of calamatous upheaval. For context the last time a third party won the presidency is the election I linked earlier in this comment, half the country went to literal war over that result.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is actually 2 flavors of the same party. The USA is a one-party state, controlled by the capitalist party.

EDIT: lol you can downvote me while you decide whether you want to vote for the Israel-defending-capitalist-that-ran-on-"securing"-the-border or the other Israel-defending-capitalist-that-ran-on-"securing"-the-border 🤪

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Google "Gerrymandering". It'll all come together.

[-] denial@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

"Winner takes it all" makes it inherent to the system. They really really need to change that. But that is hard, when it keeps the only two relevant partys in power.

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[-] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

....better to never surface hard truths. Ought to keep them buried like authoritarian regines. /s

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