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Public transit in Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 vs Chengdu, China 🇨🇳 (lemmy.world)
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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

It's impressive what you can accomplish when the people who oppose it/are in the way don't matter in the slightest to the people in charge.

I'd love to see this level of expansion anywhere in the US, done properly and without targeting minorities and the poor like we do too often...

If I could ride a metro line to work and to the store, I'd be soooooo happy. No more daily driver for me! Except my bikes, of course. I'd be saving all that money for more bicycles.

[-] brotundspiele@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

You just gave proof that the people who are in the way don't matter in the US either, as long as it's about building inner city highways.

The difference between China and the US is, that the Chinese government does what they deem is necessary and logical, ignoring the people while the US does what the deem is profitable and lucrative ignoring the people.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

You just gave proof that the people who are in the way don’t matter in the US either, as long as it’s about building inner city highways.

I don't know where I managed to say anything to the contrary... As you point out, I literally give proof that people in the way don't matter.

[-] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

You reckon people would be as willing to defend Toronto's dog shit public transit network if it was compared to a western city rather than a Chinese one?

[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Clearly not lmao

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

This reminds me that I kept the bus schedules of the intercity coach connecting a string of small cities in Quebec, that I was using 15 years ago. They had multiple departures a day. I remember being able to go from St-Hyacinthe to Victoriaville and back in the same day.

Now they have two departures a week and cut stops in multiple villages along the way.

In fact, there were coaches in the town I grew up in, back in the 90ies. Obviously there is nothing now. My mother says there were also passenger trains but they were cancelled in the 90ies too, and now there's only freight on those tracks.

I have never owned a car, always used public transit, coaches and done whatever I can to avoid using cars, and I can see through the 2 decades of my adult life in Québec that things are even regressing in some areas.

[-] disco@lemdro.id 1 points 1 week ago

North America can't public transit, it's by design

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I spent time in Chengdu in 2011. It was stunning how bad the pollution was. Like, thick sepia haze obscuring skyscrapers just a quarter mile or so down the road. I wonder if it's cleaner now.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is just a meme, it has very little informational value and it's misleading on several levels. (~~OP~~ somebody has been posting it a lot these past days; have a look there for more explanation).

The implication that things are better in China is... mostly wrong and pointlessly political. I'm restraining myself here.

If you want to criticize Toronto Public transport do it with facts, not this BS.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a Torontonian since 2005, I approve of this meme. We have so consistently and "democratically" shat the bed on transit over the last 20 years that today we live with depressing and job limiting commute times. This is very much a quality of life issue that affects most who live here. 25km commute often takes 1-1.5h in a single direction. Thousands if not millions of people here spend 2-3 hours of every work day commuting.

[-] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Public transit is in fact better in China. In fact public transit in China is considered some of the best in the world at this point. Pointing out a particular ways in which a communist country is better than most capitalist countries is informationally valuable, and vice versa. That’s called a nuanced understanding of the differences.

You asserting things can’t be better in China is pointlessly political. Some things are better in China, some things are worse.

Westerners are so propagandized they’ll literally argue with a map.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

I accept that what is being presented is factual. Do you not? I don't think that is the criticism here.

[-] PaulBunyan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

It can be both factual and misleading. The misleading part is the kicker here.

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