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[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

As a resident of a state where Democrats are going to win, regardless of what I do, a state whose tiny insignificant number of electoral votes don't matter anyway, fuck you.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You're blaming the one independent when there's 80k red voters?

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[-] Part4@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And this post is an example of a poster who voted for the party complicit in creating the current situation expressing their feeling of moral superiority.

Voting democrat is voting for a longer fuse. Problem is the longer the fuse the bigger the bomb. Or you do what you actually need to do to fix this situation. Do what you should have done decades ago which is not vote democrat.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Please explain to me how the third party vote would have swayed the election if everyone chose D instead.

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[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Can someone please tell me a communist country that doesn’t strip citizens of their rights?

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

No, so enjoy the downvotes

I am European, so, an outsider perspective, but....

I'd love to know actual numbers, because I get the feeling "commies who voted third party" are too small a group to swing elections. Just a quick look at the numbers on Wikipedia give 0.11% for the Socialism and Liberation candidate. Jill Stein got more, as did RFK even after he had withdrawn already, but I doubt they were the popular choice of the communists arguing here on Lemmy during the election campaign. (Where I, personally, argued for voting for first Biden, then Harris, because I did not see the left in the US as organised enough to react to the kind of oppression Trump would bring early, whereas I'd wager a Democrat would not have escalated like this. Just to root my own bias for context.)

I am not saying it is impossible that they could have swung a very close state, but I admit, I do think it is very improbable.

So, this feels very much like impotent rage to me, directed at the annoying but ultimately equally impotent agitprop people on here. They are loud on here, but do you really think they were that influential during the election?

[-] peregrin5@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i think they were given a big megaphone on platforms like TikTok or X by bad state actors like China, Russia, or Republican billionaires, and were used to sway a larger body that would have ultimately voted for Democrats to simply stay home and not vote because they were repeatedly pushed the idea that Democrats were "just as bad".

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Gaza nonvoters alone managed to put Trump in office, and that's excluding the other 'left' issues

At the least, protest voters and nonvoters like the very loud folk on here were part of amplifying the propaganda which led people to, bizarrely, believe that letting the more Zionist candidate win was Good, Actually, for Palestine.

[-] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah, thank you, my search-fu did not provide me good numbers like that.

However, unless I am misreading them heavily, those numbers don't seem to lay out what you mention. They are exclusively about "Biden 2020 Voters Who Cast A Ballot For Someone Besides Harris". Again - I don't think that group is large enough, because even combined, all the left-of-Democrats third party votes seem to be negligible. That is "29% of voters nationally who voted for Biden in 2020 and cast a ballot for someone besides Kamala Harris in 2024". So, again, if I combine Jill Stein, Cornell West, and Claudia De la Cruz, that is 0.72% of the popular vote. Even with a naive calculation of taking all 29% of those that would then be commies like that, that seems like not enough to put Trump into office, unless highly concentrated in very embattled swing states.

EDIT: OK, I forgot, that means also people voting Trump, not just third party. So the influence could theoretically be more. But I doubt commie agitprop pushed a lot of people to outright voting Trump.

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