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This Tesla Robotaxi demo video is a mess.

Watch as the car makes a left turn from the wrong lane, ignoring a red light. The safety operator steps in, and the car comes to a stop… right in the middle of the intersection.

Eventually, it completes the illegal turn after blocking traffic for 45 seconds, which raises the question, what exactly is the safety operator there for?

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[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

If the most relevant way to describe someone is "influencer". Then everyone influenced by them is a moron. They are just a mega moron. It's a safety hazard any of these vehicles are allowed on the road. Let alone, driving autonomously with no actual intelligence on board.

[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Paid shill for deathmobiles.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

IKR? Shades of Ralph Wiggum.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If the most relevant way to describe someone is “influencer”. Then everyone influenced by them is a moron.

I think Hank Green described it as a term marketers came up with. So, yeah it tracks.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I generally agree with hank

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Another word for an individual: 'data point'

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It didn't just "Run a red light", it downright attempted a left turn in a lane meant to drive straight through. They're just lucky that the incoming traffic was stopped when it happened or they might have been t-boned.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

How come nobody honk? Are they used to this nonsense already?

[-] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Not related to self driving, but other shitty car design.

I had a Nissan with a CVT before it was widely known they were garbage. I hit the brakes to avoid someone that ran a red, and the CVT went in to some protection mode and left me and my family stuck in the middle of the intersection for 2 entire light cycles before it'd move again.

Dealership just kept saying it's fine and it was protecting the CVT from damage after going from throttle to brake quickly. I don't give a fuck about the CVT, I care about the squishy bits inside the cabin.

After it did that again and the power windows stopped working the same day, I traded it in for a Mazda with a proper transmission. 248k miles later it's still great.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Damn shame that CVTs are so janky because it's the only non-manual transmission I'd consider. But reliable CVTs that don't do fake shifts are hard to come by.

The eCVT in my wife's Ford C-Max is an absolute dream. It's so smooth and helps the car take off much faster from a stop than my 350Z, despite having 100 less BHP. Nothing beats the feeling you get from immediate torque when you don't have to wait for the revs to build. Problem is that it also has a 75% failure rate after 100K miles. She's at 120K now and it's still going strong, so she was in the lucky 25%.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Must also be pretty hard on the tires

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Can't say I've noticed a difference. The tires wear at a normal rate. The traction and stability systems are very good in this car, despite it being over a decade old at this point. Wheel spin is well-controlled.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nissan CVT has had its fair share of bad press, but CVTs in general are good to go, and more specifically, Toyota's CVT is a good piece of gear. I don't doubt your story, but it's got me real curious about what the issue is. I can't imagine a scenario where hard braking somehow disables the car, but I know "safety features" in abundance are a thing.

[-] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah they apparently ran some scans on the transmission and everything checked out.

The 2nd time I drove straight back to the dealership since I was nearby and they scanned again without shutting the car off and still showed no issue. All I know is it'd act like it was in neutral for about 2 minutes. Then it'd barely creep forward even at 4000 rpm. Going to park and back to drive didn't help. Restarting the car didn't help. After about 10 minutes of slowly getting better, it'd be back to normal.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

That sounds more life threatening than impressive.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

If a death threat doesn't leave an impression, what will?

[-] killea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Impressive in the most literal sense. Indeed.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks to whoever wrote "raises the question" instead of the commonly used yet incorrect "begs the question".

[-] dyc3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm curious about this distinction. What's the difference between "raises" and "begs"?

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Raising a question means what you think it does. Bringing up a question which is a natural consequence or follow-up to a previously stated point.

The original meaning of begging the question is quite different and is a form of circular argument where the premise of an argument already assumes its conclusion is correct.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Impressive, I have always wanted to die in a car accident thanks Tesla!

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

It is impressive how bad it is.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

They also really need additional sensors. Elon is keep saying that self driving cars only need cameras. But cameras can be blinded or also make mistakes. Hence good self driving cars should atleast have sonar.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

As a RADAR guy I have to say they need RADAR, but I might be biased. I suppose LIDAR would be nice too. There's something called sensor fusion where you combine the measurements of different sensors, ideally using different technologies to get better measurements.

[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

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And radar is dirt cheap. Toss a radar module (or two!) under the hood, watch as your cars stop plowing into stuff in the frontal plane of movement. It's automation so simple that even Hyundai gets it right.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Respect for the capital letters

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry I meant of course LIDAR.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I like that homeboy was just like "Have a safe ride" and dude responds " we will" or some shit. Like you (tesla) just stuck us in the middle of an intersection making an illegal turn after missing where to pick us up by a block and we've been in the car for less than a minute. Don't tell us to have a safe trip, promise me we are going to get somewhere safely at that point.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

At least he didn't promise that the ride brings you to a better place.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Safety operator was trying to eliminate the witness.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 2 points 2 weeks ago

I find it impressive that nobody honked.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Probably because robotaxi is written on the side of it. Clearly a warning to other drivers, to avoid accidents.
It's like having that "learner" sign most countries have on cars for people learning to drive.

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Or every bad driver in California. I see those stickers on cars being driven by 50 year olds.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

You know a 50 year old can be a student driver, right?

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

God, my wife right there. Started driving at 50 and she scares the shit out of me.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That 50-year-old is still shaking from letting their kid drive to school, and is now going to work where they'll dread going back to pick their kid up and let them drive home. Or maybe a few more practices in empty parking lots first... Which are fucking hard to find by the way, they're all full of cars!

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean… most people I know with learner’s permits don’t have their own cars. It’s probably their parents’ car and somebody just forgot to take the sign off while the learners aren’t driving or it’s permanently adhered.

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[-] comador@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So many people in Austin drive well BELOW the speed limit that you end up wishing you were on the West or East Coast again doing 20MPH over every time you drive. Atop of not driving fast, they also refrain from anything more than a little tap of the horn for even the most life threatening maneuvers.

It's not even a Texan thing, it's JUST a ridiculous Austin thing.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

It can be impressive and also still not be very good.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Impressions are like dents left in the hood from the impact of pedestrians.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

How much was the influencer paid to say this?

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's invite only. But I have no clue.

[-] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hey you know what, lets just throw a million or more of these things into the real world right now. The sooner we can rack up the body count the sooner we can get grifters to scream into the zeitgeist about government control or whatever. Idk let tesla fuck up their value and live in infamy

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[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

So I think the only button he operator has was the kill switch. Instead the operator should have a second button to report an error or something, without causing the car to do a full stop.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Stopping might have still been a better result than turning in front of incoming traffic though

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Its good Tesla gave the safety officers have the tools they need to keep things safe...

Or not.

[-] randompasta@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Beta testing on the public roads is always a good idea. Privatize the profits and socialize the road hazards and deaths.

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