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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of comments in this thread, with a LOT of up votes, claiming this is a nothing burger and isn't actually a change in Canadian foreign policy. I understand being annoyed at slow progress that should've happened long ago but claiming this is actually bad for Palestine is disingenuous.

Canada has never recognised a Palestinian government other than the Palestinian Authority (PA) which is an Israeli organisation set up to represent Palestine on behalf of Israel. Here they are clearly starting they have intention to do so which most likely will be the State of Palestine which is a Palestinian organisation that currently receives the most recognition in the United nations general Assembly.

Here they have declared their intent:

"Canada supports a two-state solution"

Here they have declared their current plans regarding recognition:

"Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week."

Here Isreal have denounced the move by Canada:

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move,"

Here Hamas has declared support for similar plans for recognition that France has made:

"Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people"

If I were a paranoid person I'd say that the comments declaring Canada's plan to recognise Palestine are futile and meaningless are pro Israeli propaganda planted to look like a pro Palestinian stance. And when it comes to discussions about Israel online, I am very paranoid.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I think the issue people are having is that this tweet from the PM does not appear to represent any kind of change in policy.

In fact just yesterday, Reuters reported that Canada and the UK were asked by Macron to join France in recognising Palestinian statehood but refused: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/frustration-gaza-alarm-drove-macron-go-it-alone-palestine-recognition-2025-07-26/

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

Okay, so there's an upcoming conference at the UN about officially recognising the state of Palestine that has been proposed by France. Yes France was unable to get the UK and Canada to cosponsor the proposal but that is not the same as rejecting it. We will only know the official stance after the conference. However, this tweet by the Canadian government is referring to this proposal by France. In the tweet he stated that "Canada supports a two state solution" and that "Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week." Together it seems likely that Canada is intent on supporting the proposal, again we will only know after the conference.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

If so, great! I remain skeptical given our PM's recent use of phrases like "Zionist Palestine", an inability to use the word 'genocide' to describe the ongoing genocide, and the lack of any meaningful action thus far.

Even the sanctions placed on two Israeli politicians in June don't have real teeth; a previous update (Feb 2025) to Canada's sanctions rules actually allows the foreign affairs minister to issue permits overriding restrictions. https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/esv-vec.aspx?lang=eng

As I said in my other reply though, I genuinely hope you're right - but I don't see it as a foregone conclusion yet. Important to keep the pressure on our MPs.

I managed to get the office manager at my local constituency office on the phone on Friday, and was assured that I'll get a call back from my MP tomorrow. If I do, I'll ask directly what the plan is, and push for this to happen!

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

I can just barely understand avoiding the term genocide but what Israel is doing and proposing to do further is textbook ethnic cleansing and is equally egregious. We can't even officially call it ethnic cleansing. There's zero ambiguity on that definition.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

"Supporting a two-state solution" is not the same as recognizing Palestine.

Recognizing Palestine is a symbolic gesture at the moment since there's no Palestinian government that controls both the West Bank and Gaza. Generally when countries do this, the recognize the PA as the government of Palestine, but that implies that Gaza isn't part of Palestine (which nobody really thinks) and the West Bank is under occupation, so what does that even mean? I

Recognition of Palestine is just a way to protest Israel and/or the US, nothing more. It's a symbolic act, not a meaningful change in anything on the ground.

What Carney said is more sensible. Everyone reasonable wants a two-state solution, strangely it's only Netanyahu and radical pro-Palestinian groups that want a one state solution. They only differ on which ethnic group should control that one state.

Even then it's premature to talk about a long term peace before there's a ceasefire, but this is mostly about putting pressure on Israel to bring in more humanitarian aid because the US isn't doing that anymore.

Not sure what this conference will accomplish though... is any country going to commit ground troops to Gaza? We all want more humanitarian aid (and eventually a stable peaceful government) in Gaza, but how do you actually make that happen?

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree with a lot of what you've said here but a one-state solution is not necessarily a question of "which ethnic group controls the state". The anti-apartheid, anti-genocide advocates for a one-state solution generally argue for full rights for all citizens and a secular administration, if I'm not mistaken.

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 days ago

Hmm... I'm not actually seeing anything here that indicates an immediate plan to recognize Palestine as a state. Canada has been a supporter of a two state solution for a long time, but that's only a commitment to working towards Palestine becoming a state, it doesn't immediately imply that they'll follow in France's steps and immediately recognize Palestine as a state. The article offers no further evidence for the claim.

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago

You’re absolutely correct. Canada is not pursuing Palestinian statehood recognition. This statement was the second strongly worded statement against Israel that doesn’t contain any specific actions or steps.

But oh boy, wait until warning #3 comes out! I hear it will be even more strongly worded and still have absolutely zero concrete plans or consequences!

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[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

"Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week"

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Yes, I read that part. You clearly didn't. Nothing in there is an immediate commitment to recognize Palestine as a state. At best "work towards a two state solution" means "someday maybe Palestine might get to become a state if we're all feeling really generous."

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

The recognition vote in the UN is upcoming. How are they supposed to make their stance before the conference.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago
[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

There's a meeting happening next week that Canada has pledged to support Palestine as a state. We'll see next week what comes of it.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

I genuinely hope you're right!

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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago

Israel failed to prevent the humanitarian disasters that Israel started.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

They also have a video / audio of US military contractors firing on Palestinian people after they have retrieved food to "disperse" the crowd. And one american shouted "you got one". The video is taken behind a hill so you don't see the commotion. The video was leaked by a merc that had a sense of conscience.

And Israel, to disperse hungry Palestinians entering the aid area before it was actually open, were fired on by an Israeli Tank. Firing a tank shell into a crowd is not crowd dispersion, its just murder.

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[-] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago

Israel should never have been allowed to exist. Their presence only ever causes pain.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 days ago

Europe decided Jews weren't safe in Europe so gave up some of their colonial land in order to create a settler ethnostate in the most religiously significant region in the world.

Questioning this is illegal

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I am sorry, but nowhere does he say that.

The "we want a two state solution, but wont recognize a palestinian state until Israel agrees to it" has been the modus operandi of many Genocide supporting countries. They know Israel wont ever agree to it while they reject putting actual pressure on the Zionist project.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

"Canada supports a two state solution"

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Israelis and Palestinian citizens need to agree together that they have to oust their Hamas and Netanyahu regime oppressors. Without this, nothing will change.

[-] cyborganism@piefed.ca 28 points 2 days ago

YES! FUCKING FINALLY!

GOD DAMN IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!

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[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

How brave of them to make a statement, with no plans, goals, or commitments, after the entire region has already been flattened and its people murdered or starved.

This is leadership? Fuck that.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

"Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week"

[-] gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

This dosent change jack shit. UN memberships have to be approved by all the perminent members of the security council and the US is a perminent member of said council. And in the UN the US always does what Israel tells them to.

If I remember correctly last year there was a vote on palistine becoming a member and the only countires that voted no was the US and Israel but palistine is still not a member because Israel told the US to block it.

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Good move from Canada here.

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