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[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

That's real fucking rich coming from the government that:

  • Removed all references to "trans-" regardless of context.
  • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
  • Calls information they dislike "fake news".
  • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago

Don't forget

removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

runs from people trying to ask them questions

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If we're adding "runs from people trying to ask them questions", we should be more accurate about it.

runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

That because they don't want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 week ago

That's the regressive mindset for you. When they say 'all', they mean themselves.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They don't want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

What did they do indeed

[-] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

No no, you don't understand. That doesn't apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes "strongly condemn" them.

[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago

Translation help from Fascist English to US English:

  • "activist" = a non-politician whose free speech we don't like
  • "allow all voices to be heard" / "free speech" = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/...
  • "defend [...] all Americans" = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven't jailed yet (subject to change)
[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Kyub's right.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

While defunding NPR and PBS.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let's be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.

[-] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

As a UKian, this is unfortunately true. No matter how many of us want to just cut off the US completely, the government will always capitulate.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Ask Stephen Colbert about the US' vaunted "free speech".

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Colbert didn't go to prison, not really a good argument.

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[-] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn't covered by the First Amendment.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 week ago

EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.

[-] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago

Very disappointing indeed. Hoping to at least see continued work on digital independence, especially in governmental entities.

[-] elvith@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?

Tell us more about the importance of free speech.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

What a shithole country.

[-] thejml@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

The only thing I condemn the French inquiry on is that it should have already happened.

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Them: Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard

Us: Free Palestine

Them: Terrorist!

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

USA can straight up go fuck itself now. They don't dictate anything anymore.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

US condemns....

Good. That means you're doing the right thing. Keep doing it.

[-] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"activist" even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

100% "X is an organized crime group". if you count brainwashing as a crime, which i do.

they're manipulating public opinion towards what the rich want to hear. it's all propaganda.

elon musk bought twitter to conduct "social engineering" after doing classical engineering before at tesla. it's all just a way to control what people think, and it's partially working. the people need to get off commercial social media and use something community-hosted, like the fediverse. to reduce the tinkering with recommendation algorithms and also to reduce the bot army.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.

Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they've heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.

In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There is that.

American democrats, though, irritated me more until I've started noticing Republicans. They have that "parties switched in 1960s" myth (only parties' ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from "progressives" of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it's the same about Republicans, whose "anti-racist" ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today's projects), and also the "popular party" myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).

At the same time the "free speech" stuff over there seems to mostly be about "they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth".

Not sure it's entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven't lived in the US.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

By condemning this, the "US" is shooting itself in the foot.

Ever since Twitter owner used Twitter to say Canada "wasn't a real country", no Canadian should be using Twitter. That wasn't just bias, it was an "in your face and screw you" kind of bias.

us should realise the world doesn't revolve around them and nobody respects them.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

large backlog in north korea, russia, and china. Better get that military up to snuff.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Just call it Twitter. He's been trying to make "fetch" happen since the 90s. We get it, rich boy, you have a single-character .com domain. I'm still sending money over PayPal, because that's what it's fucking called.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

PayPal? The platform that can freeze your account and keep your money for whatever reason and amount of time they like? I don't know...

[-] semisimian@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

Okay, now defend us from the foreign censorship that Israeli lobbyists baked into our state constitutions. https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It is not censorship. This is not a government telling you what to publish or not. This is just finding out how a company is abusing its product to influence politics.

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