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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this just makes me think of the recent Chapo with Mohammad Alsaafin where he proposes that Hamas has realized "western sympathy" has little to no value

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmT7wjHC_EM the time link isn't working it's being double escaped, but the time offset is 58 minutes 30 seconds

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everybody should listen to that part of the podcast, as well as the section before about the March of Return protests a few years ago. Gazans tried doing the non-violent civil disobedience that western liberals insist that they do, and all it got them was cut down by sniper fire in front of an indifferent world. They have no options left but armed conflict, and the condemnation of western liberals is beyond irrelevant.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

I've heard that from others. It makes sense. America played mediator in absolutely bad faith for years.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

take a firm position for once, have some principles

You are old, you are not going to play any political roles in the future, go hogwild

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

This sort of is a firm position. By taking a stance with Israeli civilians impacted by the uprising, he can bring attention to Israel itself targeting civilians and it's harder for detractors to dismiss it out of hand.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Bernie sucks but I just heard the most recent episode of The East Is A Podcast where an academic being interviewed talks about the need to use contradictions to split the imperial core. Not everyone in the USA is gung ho about exterminating Palestine, although we are certainly being made to think that way. We all know for instance how Bernays worked to convince Guatemala that their struggle was pointless for instance when it definitely wasn’t.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

cool give me back my $27

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

My statement on the continuing violence in Israel and Gaza.

Nitter

Did Bernie turn on the function so only blue checks can reply? He couldn't have - could he?

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Ninja edit

He didn't. It's Musk's fucked up algos hard at work pushing garbage blue check takes to the top. I'm on a desktop and I had to scroll to page 7 to see a comment by a normal person without a check. Yeesh.

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Moderate wing of fascism

[-] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

"no matter who does it"

but he only says this when hamas lifts a finger.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

They’ve been doing it! You don’t give a shit at all!

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Ok, but as far as the US goes isn't this a good sign? It shows that the domestic front isn't entirely aligned on the extermination of all Palestinians, despite what AOC wants people to think.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Problem being that it is literally the abject few saying this

At the end of the day, it's a small nagging voice in the background while the war machine grinds on

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's absolutely fair.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Bernie retire. You've proved you're worthless and unwilling to confront power

[-] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

bernie is a liberal :spit-emoji-that-we-don't-have:

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Wake me up only if Bernie is threatening to use a metal chair on Netanshityoo.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Vacillating weakling, go fuck yourself

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I think it's stupid if true, but I get the impression that progressives decided to react to the "initial" part of this, where it was just Palestinians attacking, with "wow that's so bad, who would shoot people?" and waited until after the IDF started bombing to condemn Israel. I think they believe it has some optical value, I really don't though.

It's either this, or the massive bullying from Posters Like You that got most of them to make generally better statements over the next couple of days.

[-] Civility@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

fine, he's good again. supporting an oppressed people at the very moment when they are being universally demonized by power gets a gold star from me.

[-] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago
[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe his recent bullshit was strategic

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

bernie has been a two state shitlib for his entire career, this is nothing new

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