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[-] SpeedRunner@europe.pub 17 points 8 months ago

Actually yes. They did vote for this.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 months ago

During the 1986-1992 California drought, we were informed in the San Francisco Bay Area region that water service prices were going to go up unless we conserved strictly.

They said this to a bunch of California hippies, on account that we were in California.

So we way got on board. We stopped flushing. Any water that was rendered non-potable we'd repurpose for watering plants or filter it for second use. Japanese naval baths (weird tiny bowl seats and a sponge, used in the Imperial Navy, WWII) got popular so people were keeping clean via a tenth of normal water usage.

We conserved too much according to the water department and they raised prices anyway.

This sparked some investigations (by journalists, since investigative journalism was still a thing then) and found that agriculture got water for much cheaper, and was still using it once before flushing it (now laced with pesticides) out into the sea. Needless to say, we conservationist hippies were livid.

It's still a problem, as the utility companies routinely lobby our congress and governor (and Newsom may know how to be a California liberal, but he's still a Dianne-Feinstein-style ( / Nancy-Pelosi style) money-grubbing neoliberal. He just has game, especially when opposed to far right idiots. The setup in Monster's Inc (power crisis in a city where scream is the principal power source) was inspired by the Enron fraud affair leading to rolling blackouts and Texas siphoning off California's general fund. And our governments from Schwarzenegger (who I will never forgive) to Newsom are in the pocket of PG&E. (I'm on SMUD now and my bill is conspicuously less.)

Also, according to Climate Town, the Sauds own a lot of California farmland, where they grow alfalfa to import to the mid-east to feed their cows. Alfalfa crops are one of the most water hungry, and is one of the big ways beef is driving the climate crisis (and towards a massive food shortage and global famine!) and the water tables, to which they have access and first-tap rights, gets lower every year. 🕙

So I suspect that the Texas AI centers are getting water at a cheaper rate than private homes. Maybe it's something to get active about.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

So the people should build a giant warehouse that uses a bazillion gallons of water that feeds into the warehouse and in the same pipe back to the water system, get wholesale rates and charge consumers the cheaper rate!

Same pipe, just make sure it goes into the warehouse so you can charge people for what leaves.

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[-] bluelander@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Texan here: we barely get to vote on shit at all. And they're gerrymandering to make it even harder.

I'd call Texas a clown car but it's too big to qualify.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The estimate of the majority Democrats would need to retake the Senate is something like 70/30, based on the degree of gerrymandering.

And the math just gets worse every time maps are redrawn.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

How strong is Fair Maps Texas? Assuming it's sincere in its effort to redistrict Texas fairly, Maybe they need more ~~brickthrowers~~ ~~saboteurs~~ sign wavers and clerical volunteers.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Yes, Texas did vote for that. Haha, Red states suffering is funny.

[-] caboose2006@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Whether or not they did we all exist under the same atmosphere.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They owned the ~~libs~~ themselves..

[-] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They owned the themselves

[-] Goun@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago
[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

incomprehensible text about being mechahitler

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 8 months ago

its funny how these AI centers are mostly if not all in red states only, simply because they know the legislation wont do anything, and encourage them anyways, plus the resident that leans right are less likely to make a big fuss over it.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

This but just the Microsoft logo lol

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

"Since Microsoft dropped its DEI initiatives, it's good actually!"

[-] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well, I mean...Not for nothing, but Texas being one of the reddest states there is, and even being willing to double it down by heavily gerrymandering themselves for Trump worship, means that they did vote to serve their deep state and oligarch overlords. Which is quite ironic for the small government party. And that's coming from me, who believes in the potential of AI for humanity in the long-term, but only if used responsibly and not at the cost of people's quality of life to satisfy the corrupt elite.

But then again, irony is in their DNA, starting with all their preaching about "keeping kids safe". Speaking of which, Trump files where? I need to check if Epstein's name comes up in those.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Imagine not having obese AI fart videos because you want a shower?

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

LOL! The Red Run Deregulated Texas Oblast does not surprise me with this kind of shit. If it dries up, the fucking red voters can stay and find the fuck out.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

don't be selfishn, Microsoft AI will be used by the whole world and only few people will need this water to shower.

S/ hahahha

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sorry, but a vibe coder just told Chat GPT to fully implement their code. Now you can't shower. Suck it!

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 8 months ago

It's always a good idea to put computer centers in areas with water scarcity. /s

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

In hot areas with water scarcity.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago

And an electrical grid held together by duct tape and chewing gum

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[-] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 8 months ago

People should be angry and upset about this. Similar to the story some weeks ago where residents of a small Texan town (seemingly rightfully at first) complained about the noise pollution of a Bitcoin mining farm. Turns out they all voted Republican. It's always "we'll deregulate and bring business" just that the modern businesses they bring are a net negative for the area except for the politicians and the companies. Is almost like these regulations were there for a reason.

Both Bitcoin and AI are stupid VC money that only matters in a very small bubble, and they're not business in a traditional sense. They just leech resources at their compute centers to make the people who own them and live far away rich. I pity all this who didn't vote for this kind of bullshit. The rest, enjoy your shorter showers and everything else! But remember, it's the Dems who want to dictate stuff like water usage. Not in my free country! Oh, the water is gone because a greedy Corp stole it? That's fine, one day it's my turn to be rich.

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You could consider it an extractive industry like mineral mining. In this case the electricity and water are turned into profit. It creates some short term local jobs like construction, but the system administrators are likely hired from elsewhere. The R&D is likely being done elsewhere as well. Most of the money these businesses spend goes straight to Nvidia and the profit goes straight to a small group of executives and investors.

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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago

If AI centres need so much cooling, why are they building them in Texas in the first place?

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Lack of regulations of all kinds

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago

On a suspicion, I had a quick look, and of course there's also tax incentives, apparently.

Love this quote "Texas had long been a preferred location for large data centers given its central location, economic climate, reliable electric grid, historically low occurrences of natural disasters, educated workforce and pro-business environment." :|

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

My country is int he middle of a data center boom, fuelled by the usual royal and political, uh, inputs. We also have seasonal droughts, which often result in water rationing and angry people upset at the mismanagement of our resources. Wonder which will give way first.

[-] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Stoopid Texans. You've got the guns, start using the things. If they need cooling, maybe aerate a few blocks of servers for them.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh, and THEN, the AI will ask you to go take a shower if you're feeling dry, dirty or thirsty. I mean after telling you why taking a shower is good, why people take showers, which celebrities took showers the past week and asks if you want to ads taking a shower to next week's reminders.

[-] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Why aren’t they building these things underground or repurposing old mines in areas where geothermal is plentiful for power and aquifers are stable, instead of in water-poor, temperature extreme places like Texas and KY? …Oh right, poverty and red voters. Better to exploit and damage then have some upfront cost and long-term stability. I forget.

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[-] maniajack@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] excral@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago

The priorities are completly screwd up. If they found a way to power the AI datacenters with humans, Matrix style, would they ask Texans to sacrifice their first borns to do so?

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