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[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

told men don't feel, don't love, don't care

Yes, that's what feminists mean when we speak of toxic masculinity. Societal enforcement of rigid gender roles are bad for women and men.

This is basic, foundational stuff in modern feminism.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -5 points 12 hours ago

So why is it the self-proclaimed feminists in here who are pushing back the hardest on anon’s claims?

You’d think they would embrace this as evidence that #NotAllMen are violent and sexist, yet they’re fighting me tooth and nail on it.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago

MacNCheezus comes to in a pool of blood and straw.... shaking his head to regain focus, he stands up ready for another round.

You. Will. Not. Defeat. Me. Straw. Man.

I am the hero incels deserve

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -2 points 7 hours ago

Explain how feminism helps men achieve positive behavioral change if it systematically discards any evidence of their capacity for such.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's not feminism. That's sexism, which yes, can also come from self-proclaimed "feminists". In fact, an entire wave of "feminism" was established on the idea of hating on men because it was at a time when women had to be quite outspoken to be heard at all.

Though in modern times, anyone seriously saying "all men bad" is just being an ignorant sexist regardless of their proclaimed beliefs. Don't feed in to their BS by treating them as paragons of feminism. They're just haters who do not understand that feminism needs to include lifting up good men and enabling them to open up.

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago

Explain how feminism helps men achieve positive behavioral change if it systematically discards any evidence of their capacity for such.

There's plenty of feminist literature about raising compassionate, empathetic, loving sons.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Explain how exercise helps men achieve fitness if it causes them to spontaneously combust.

How can exercise be helpful if it's setting people on fire?

Given that exercise harms people: how is it helpful?

Explain that.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago

And here you are accusing me of strawmanning…

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

you're so close push through the pain

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago
[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 15 points 21 hours ago

were on lemmy but it's 4chan posting, to be expected sadly

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago

I thought we post and discuss greentext to make fun of them, not to agree with them.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, that is the impression I got as well

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

No more time for sorrow. Efforts to not live in a cesspool are futile in an oligarchy. Let's shame some people who deserve it.

[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

try to never loose hope, and shaming people never brings anything other than personal satisfaction

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago

You're incorrect. If it's actually felt, shame is the most powerful motivator for change. The personal satisfaction comes not from what the effort might accomplish, but from defending the ground you walk on when invaders try to tarnish its value. I will not let them enter every space I occupy and bloviate unchallenged.

[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

that's fair, I was a bit shocked to see a post like this here, might block 4chan...

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Shaming people is how we got were we are. It doesn't seem to be working.

The person who loves shame, sounds like they've been hurt. Consider the speaker might be biased.

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes everyone; consider that every speaker might be biased.

[-] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I am using Lemcel from now on when I see incel shit on this platform, thank you!

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Have YOU written any songs or sonnets?

Have YOU made any sculptures?

Have YOU created poetry or plays?

Yes to sculptures and poetry. It didn’t get me laid with new people though.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Yep. And no one cared. Why any of the many women who asked me out, I've no clue. I can tame hummingbirds, crows, and coyotes accidentally. No one cares.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago

Any generalization of this kind, positive or negative, struggles to capture individuality.

It's stupid to argue "men are deeply emotional as a group, because some poet was male"

It's equally stupid to argue "men are dangerous as a group, because some rapist was male"

Men, and women, are all different, and there is so much more variability within each gender than between them.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Sort of hard to reconcile how similar humans are to each other while exclaiming we are all snowflakes too.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

In 1989 I translated Sweet Child of Mine into French for my girlfriend. Poetry! So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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[-] grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 day ago

men don't universally conform to a stereotype

therefore they must all confirm to a different stereotype

also women bad

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