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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by arsus5478@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I edited the new debian.sources file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d according to debian instructions, started to upgrade and successfuly upgraded to 13.0, at least core debian (can use mpv, vlc, thunar, libreoffice...)

Problem is, this notebook with debian 13.0 doesnt have a working network manager and there are still 900 packages that need upgrading.

The command I entered in the terminal: sudo systemctl status NetworkManager.service returns: unit NetworkManager.service could not be found.

I have an android phone I thought I could use as a network hotspot or maybe tether, but debian 13.0 doesnt recognize it, so I really dont know what to do

Lan cable didnt work either.

Help appreciated

ETA: THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR AWESOME HELP!!!

special thanks to InnerScientist and stuner for their approach but what worked was what IHave69XiBucks proposed.

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[-] krotos@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Case sensitivity may be the problem. Try systemctl status NetworkManager

[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Sorry, corrected it. Results didnt change

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Almost certainly this.

Type nmcli, if it does anything but complain that it can't find that command, you have NetworkManager installed

[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

nmcli returns command not found

sudo systemctl status NetworkManager.service returns: unit NetworkManager.service could not be found.

Seems I dont have that one either

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Connect a lan cable and:

ip a (shows network interfaces and ips

ip a a 192.168.<subnet>.<unused ip>/24 dev <interface> (get the subnet from your router or phone WiFi settings, interface is the interface starting with "en" from the first command, for unused ip just try your phone IP +1)

ip r a default via <router IP> (router IP can be seen in your phones WiFi settings under gateway)

Also checkout /etc/resolv.conf, replace its content with "nameserver 8.8.8.8"

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

For reference, those letters are just short for, respectively

address
address add
route add
[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Thanks for that

[-] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Could you edit your post to include the solution for anyone else with the same issue coming across this post in the future?

[-] k_rol@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

but what worked was what IHave69XiBucks proposed.

Why do I not see his comment?

[-] mouse@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago

Your Lemmy instance blocks the lemmygrad instance where IHave69XiBucks resides. My instance does too.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 days ago

I'm so sneaky u cant see me 😜 I am the spectre of communism haunting you

[-] k_rol@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Ah, that explains. Thanks.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Im confused about how you did a partial upgrade? Did you run full-upgrade or just upgrade? When i did it it did the entire thing in one go.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It is possible you have downloaded the new network manager package but not installed it. I would try to run

sudo apt --fix-broken install

sudo apt full-upgrade

and see if it can install anything that is pre-downloaded. This may fix your network issues. If not it'll be a much more annoying fix.

[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago
[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Alright try to plug in the ethernet cable and run

ip link show

sudo dhclient eth0 (Replace "eth0" with your interface name check with ip link)

If you see the interface, but its not managed run

sudo ip link set eth0 up

sudo dhclient eth0

(Once again use the interface from ip link)

Assuming you have network connection again run

sudo apt install --reinstall network-manager

sudo systemctl enable --now NetworkManager

If all that works run

sudo apt update

sudo apt full-upgrade

sudo apt autoremove

If that doesn't work run

journalctl -b -p 3 --no-pager

and tell me what that says

[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

sudo dhclient eth0

you.saved.the.day

thanks!!!

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Glad it worked for you! Make sure to check over everything, and make sure the install finished correctly. You might have other broken packages too.

[-] arsus5478@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I used sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah for like a normal update youd do just upgrade but for a full version upgrade you should be running full-upgrade. It gets rid of conflicts, and goes deeper than the normal upgrade. Just for future reference.

[-] limelight79@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

This is interesting. I updated my laptop and had a network issue as well, but mine was different - it wanted to use dnsmasq, which I don't need (being an end-point, not a server), and dnsmasq wasn't picking up the dns from dhcp.

Solution turned out to be to disable dnsmasq using systemctl and reboot.

[-] stuner@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That sounds pretty bad and probably means other things are broken too. The easiest option would probably be a reinstall at this point, but if you want to learn something you can also try to salvage your install.

To recover, it's probably easiest to manually configure your Ethernet connection as described by InnerScientist and then re-install the network-manager package.

You can check the status of the network-manager package using dpgk. It should look like this (ii at the start, but it sounds like it's not installed in your case):

$ dpkg -l | grep -i network-manager
ii  network-manager                         1.52.1-1                        amd64        network management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
ii  network-manager-l10n                    1.52.1-1                        all          network management framework (translation files)

You can also check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what went wrong and if there are other things you need to fix.

I performed the upgrade in two steps apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs and apt full-upgrade (based on the release notes). I can see the following on the line Upgrade: for the command apt full-upgrade:

network-manager:amd64 (1.42.4-1+deb12u1, 1.52.1-1)

On the Remove: line you can see the packages that were removed. Unfortunately, the names of many libraries were changed in this release (e.g., libreadline8:amd64 to libreadline8t64:amd64), so there's a lot of noise in there. Maybe you can look at that line and ignore everything that starts with lib to see if any other important packages were removed.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

Bring up networking manually?

Or just back up your files and reinstall.

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