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Going from Windows to Linux then back to windows sucks.

Edit; Going through the comments it seems it doesn’t matter so long as IT supports the operating system, which is fair, in my scenario I’m not involved with our systems-management/IT/developers unless it’s an update to the software we use.

My desktop at work is still Windows 10 and while it works, kinda, my keyboard shortcuts are almost entirely different, I’ve encountered numerous moments where switching tab either by alt-tabbing or by the taskbar not working at all forcing me to minimize everything till I find that tab, couple times it wouldn’t even boot.

I started unplugging the Ethernet cable when I leave for work so IT can’t do any behind the scenes when I’m away.

I dredd the day they force a win 11 desktop on me.

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[-] Tabooki@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

For sure. I worked in IT for a long time. After we switched from the mainframe to os/2 I ran it for a decade on my desktop while the company went to Windows. Then once I couldn't run os/2 anymore due to newer hardware I switched to Linux. Ran it from the late 90s until my retirement 5 years ago.

I had to support it all myself but they let me since I was also the security guy and they realized that Windows sucked.

[-] SauceFlexr@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Most places I've been at have only OS restrictions when the corporate IT doesn't support it. To be honest, while not perfect, WSL on Windows is great.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It's certainly better than none Linux

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

I didn't convince anyone, I just did it.

As soon as microsoft announced the recall feature I was like nope this I aint consenting to that even at work. I put Nixos/Gnome on my work laptop and haven't looked back. Everytime I help someone on their windows 11 laptop it feels like a snails pace.

I wish I could convince our workplace to switch to linux. I feel like Nixos would be PERFECT for the workplace, you could just deploy like a standard config and add more apps if needed.

It would make all the software requests super easy. (given they were FOSS ofc. Even most windows apps work using Wine or Proton tbh.) I don't use any closed source apps on my laptop, but others could.

[-] lightnegative@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Where this doesn't work is the entire Finance department.

They need proper Excel, full of all the proper Excel shenanigans. Some of them will also have VBA macros and random plugins too that they rely on

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

It's definitely doable. There's plenty of companies and governments in Europe that have made the switch to open source away from Microsoft.

This is true, here is a brief list: https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/who-uses-libreoffice/

But I'm sure it is a massive project you would need to have sufficient motivation at all levels. Not at all a trivial project.

I am curious how these changes feel on-the-ground to the affected workers who had no personal interest in linux or free software.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I did, in my previous and curret job...e very happy camper

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 10 points 3 days ago

That’s really dependent on how your work manages user workstations. If your employer is big enough to have managed endpoints, you’ll need to convince your IT department, not just your boss. They’ll have to be able to officially support it (compatibility, updates, security, legal, etc.) and that also requires approval from higher ups.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

Didn't need to, our developers work on Linux because that's what their tooling uses.

Granted it's either Ubuntu LTS or RHEL because of compliance, but they make it work. Unfortunately Linux is a second-class citizen to central IT, so when they make changes, they don't really consider Linux users, they're on their own.

[-] livingcoder@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

I can't even install Rust...

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In a large organization, IT team/Organization policy will never allow to let you use Linux as your OS unless it is required for project or mandated by client.

With ransomware attacks on ever rise, IT will always try to control all aspects of your office laptop/desktop. As they think they got it sorted for Windows, they will fight tooth and nail if you ever submit it ticket to get your OS replaced with Linux without project requirements.

In my view, as long as I'm allowed to install whatever on my personal devices even while working from home, I'm fine.

Office devices aren't really my property. For me, Windows during office hours, and Linux thereafter.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

You deserve to have an OS that doesnt spy on you. As well if you install linux then your company can't spy on you either.

[-] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 2 days ago

that's not true if it's company managed

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

All it takes to be true is one little USB stick 😉

[-] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, go ahead and install your own Linux distro. Now you can't authenticate to the internal network or use any of the services.

At the end of the day, corporate being able to manage Linux is what makes it possible to be used in an enterprise environment. There are regulatory and auditing requirements that would otherwise make Linux not an option.

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[-] dashietm@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Fun story, started at a new company as a software engineer. Default device is windows, with maybe a mac if you specifically ask for it/have a need for it.

However, turns out the person in charge of IT is super chill and lets you install what you want on your on risk. Fair deal as I am not developing super critical infrastructure.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Used Ubuntu LTS in a VM at a bank, a tech company and now using it as an officially sanctioned OS at my workplace.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Yes basically all of our machines are Linux.

[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

I've been sysadmin where I work for 12 years, Ive been using Linux as my OS there all that time except the first month. After that month I asked the IT manager if he cared what OS I use. He said he didn't care so long as it didn't impede me getting the work done. The junior sysadmin who started a year ago now also uses Linux and my manager wishes he could too (he does too much Microsoft office to get away with it)

[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

My work allows RHEL, but it's a specialized configuration that doesn't get updated very often. I tried it for a while but it was so out of date that I couldn't build half the tools I needed, so I ended up switching back to Windows. It was about 10-15 years ago when the C++ standard was undergoing a lot of changes, and the company-approved version of GCC was several years old and didn't support any of the newest features.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Can you get Distrobox running on it. If so, put whatever distro you want on Distrobox and build whatever tools you need in there (including a totally different GCC or Clang toolchain).

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

i consider myself lucky in that i've only been forced to use windows twice and both times they were okay with wsl; so i used that instead.

i'm guessing it depends on what your work is and since i've primarily worked on linux & solaris; there was no reason why i couldn't use it as my primary means for getting work done.

both times, they used the microsoft office suite (primarily outlook, word and excel) which was always problematic; but i suspec that's a permanent thing since that's still not even seemless when you have to go back an forth on those apps on a mac and windows.

[-] Henson@feddit.dk 4 points 3 days ago

Working for Danmarks meteorological institute, as a developer its default with Ubuntu, hr/finance/management use windows

[-] witness_me@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I failed at convincing anyone at every company I’ve worked with. Getting a MacBook is the only alternative for me.

[-] theroff@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

My previous job, yes! A few people had that fight years before I started and won. It was decided on the basis that we're Linux sysadmins who already operate a sizeable fleet of Linux systems and running our own desktops would be beneficial and self-supported.

Sadly my current employer doesn't share this view. We used a crippled Linux desktop through Apache Guacamole which is a bit average to say the least. I have to put up with the constant bullshit that is Windows and all of its ads, news headlines and trash that I don't want on my computer at work. I hate it but I have very little influence in that space.

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[-] Obin@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

At my workplace all the devs are on either Mac OS or Linux, with Mac OS being more common among Web/PHP guys and Linux among the backend devs (like me). As it turns out, given the choice, nobody actually prefers Windows. I'm still baffled by Mac OS being so common, though, at least among devs.

This works because our whole IT infrastructure is designed to be accessible via the web-browser, most of it even without VPN, via two-factor authenticated single-sign-on, most of it self-hosted (all except Teams, which obviously also needs its own authentication). This gives people the freedom to run whatever OS they like on their computers and set it up themselves, with the only requirement being to use FDE with a strong password and regularly do backups to the remote storage. We're also allowed (if not encouraged) to use the laptops for private stuff and get to keep them when they're replaced.

And as far as I can tell IT problems because of this diverse environment are surprisingly minimal and mostly with those aforementioned web services.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 3 days ago

To be fair to macOS, it’s still Unix-based, which at least makes it less miserable for development than Windows.

I would still go for Linux any time, though.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

That and i hear macbook battery life is absolute black magic fuckery

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The battery life on my MacBook M1 Max is better than the machine it replaced but nothing to write home about. I bought my wife an M4 MacBook Air and honestly she will misplace her charging cord for days because she didn’t need it. It’s remarkable. For most devs, a powerful Linux desktop (or cloud server) and a MacBook Air is a very powerful combination.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah. I also have GrapheneOS on my work tablet

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago

We have some platform-specific tooling. I might attempt it if they didn’t let me have a Mac at work (I remote into Win for the couple of proprietary things anyway). There’s that saying, you miss all the shots you don’t take. Go for it and see.

[-] pavjav@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

We have the option of using wsl but it's more trouble than it's worth. I think some people can request MacBooks, but it's a really drawn out process.

We typically only use RHEL for servers and kubernetes and stuff. I just put up with windows, and request a new laptop when it inevitably slows down and gets bloated.

[-] LaSirena@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I officially switched my work laptop to linux after the security wonks made it impossible for me to have both network interfaces up amd connected at the same time. As a network engineer working in an airgapped lab prepping new equipment for deployment, it made it pretty hard for me to transfer and install software to the new equipment and consult online documentation. I asked, I received a non-answer, so I just did it. I don't keep it a secret, I follow all of the recommended security practices, and no one has complained to me.

[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Would a vm work? What about live environment on a usb?

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