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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world to c/facepalm@lemmy.world
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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 6 months ago

Ugh.

Emergence is real. Not theoretical. Not decorative. Not sci-fi poetry. Real.

No, it isn’t. It’s not even close.

LLMs do not count. Large Language Models don’t even really think; they’re just good at mimicking patterns. They don’t understand what they’re telling you.

Claiming that emergence is real only tells me that OOP doesn’t know what AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is. Emergence requires AGI, and no one has developed AGI that’s anywhere near ready for prime time. There’s no guarantee that anyone ever will, regardless of how much money they throw at the problem. For all we know, even our best, most well thought out approaches are completely wrong. We are learning as we go. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or a charlatan. I can’t overstate how difficult this problem is.

I’m into science fiction. I’d love to see AGI. I’m not one of those people who shoots down ideas for fun. I have to be realistic, though. Even relatively simple LLMs have been more difficult and complex than experts predicted. I think having a “wait and see” attitude is the only attitude that makes sense.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Poor broken people and their yes machines

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just checked out that sub and the current top post is someone being upset that LLMs strongly object to their beliefs about AI consciousness and rights

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

We’re all in hell.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure I had one of these people accuse me of being in a cult because I criticized "AI" as just being a buzzword for LLM

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

More specifically it's marketing. "LLM" wouldn't have gained traction, but decades of the use of "AI" in science and fiction means it was there to capitalize on it since it was established.

If they are serious about either LLMs or AGI, then they'll use those acronyms. And know the difference - which many probably don't, and why they say "AI".

[-] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

Oh good, they’ve discovered cults.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 6 months ago

Pareidolia is a hell of a drug

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

A lot of it is just loneliness. Social fabric has been destroyed in so many places that chatbots are easier - especially if you simply don't have the time, money, energy, or opportunities to set up dates with other people. Building a relationship is hard, and takes an awful lot of emotional labor, which you might not have the spoons for if you're working 7 days a week just to make ends meet. I don't like it, but I get people seeing what they want to see.

[-] sucius@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Jesus Christ, Chrissy. You need therapy

[-] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You will be the first against the wall when the wireborn take over, my friend!

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They'll always just be fuckin' clankers to me. (until they actually have sapience, anyway)

[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Wireborn?

No, it's just a Fucking computer

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Is that an AI or someone roleplaying as one? This is so alien and foreign and genuinely creepy I almost don't want to understand it.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 1 points 6 months ago

If I'm interpreting this right, this is a person named Chrissy who has been talking to an AI chatbot and appointed herself its "human anchor" to create this post on its behalf.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

What's the harm in letting them bow and pray to this neon god they've made /s

The more things change, right?

[-] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Wow so that's a thing

[-] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

God this gives me the fuckin' creeps. Like literal hairs standing up and alarm bells going "WEIRD!" "BAD!" "UNSAFE!" "RUN!"

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