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[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 month ago

In a move that I didn't see get any mainstream press coverage, although I learned about it through the Fediverse, the highly influential extension of the federal government, the CMHC (Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation), quietly redefined affordable housing this year from at most 30% of gross income to 40-45% of gross income (and plausibly 50% by 2035). "Affordable housing" is one step below "market [price based] housing", so spending 50% of earnings on rent seems like the policy's working as intended. Society's @#$%ed

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From the CMHC link:

The "housing continuum," now with benches in parks. Sadly they missed the sleep-prevention middle bar most park benches have these days.

[-] slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I just love how there's no home ownership in there. It's renting all the way down.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But it’s not what the scale is made for. Where would you even put it? Homeowners can buy market housing or other types of housing, including affordable housing and community housing

[-] slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In a move that I didn't see get any mainstream press coverage, although I learned about it through the Fediverse

I have some evidence that mods on the major Canadian subreddits actively censor and push specific political and ideological points. I have built tools to track it too.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Great initiative, good on you! I'd love to see some preliminary data some time. I remember testing whether reddit geo-blocked "mail order marijuana" to Canadians around 2020, and sure enough they did. I've been off reddit for 2 years since the API debacle. Are mods on the major Canadian subreddits users or employees? If users, how/why are they so motivated to censor and promote certain narratives? Are they selected for the role based on their activity (e.g., they're already pro 'freedom convoy') and then retained (and motivated to stick to certain narratives) through ongoing relatively small monetary gifts?

[-] slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Here's a public version of my script I released last night: https://github.com/unbound-sigbreak/Reddit-Removal-Lock-Tracker

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It's not even subtle

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This did get media coverage: https://archive.is/ABVDl

The reason this hasn’t blew up is because it’s not as much of bombshell as one might think. Looks like you’re conflating two things: the definition of affordable housing vs housing affordability targets. The definition of “what is affordable housing” hasn’t changed, it’s still 30% if income.

CMHC updated its affordability benchmark which is its own separate thing it uses to track progress on affordability levels. It might sound the same but these are separate things. For example, we can still build projects that are in the “affordable housing” category but if whether we build enough of it is one of the factors in the hit or miss of the affordability benchmark set as the levels observed in 2019.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for your comment and the article. The link didn't resolve for me but I'd guess that was a globe and mail article.

Was the affordability benchmark not the same as the affordable housing definition (from 2003 or whenever) until this reports and the decisions behind it at the CMHC this year decoupled them?

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, these have always been different things. They were similar numbers, one was and still is 30% and the other was close to 30% nationally in 2004 (but for BC the benchmark was already >40% for example) but these numbers were not “linked”, they were close to each other - which was a good thing, hence why it was a good benchmark at the time.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the info!

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago

It's been clear ever since the one-bedroom apartment rent outpaced the 30% mark on minimum wage. It's now over $2300 in Toronto and the mininum wage gross per month is about 3100. That puts us at 74% of gross income.

[-] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Doesn't this mean the net income is dangerously close to the rent value itself?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Probably. Didn't compute it but likely.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

I don’t really think anyone should make minimum wage in Toronto.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

If you are lucky enough that you can afford the rent solo. Most people might have roommates to stay afloat.

[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

END HOME SCALPING

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I remember being told 1/3 was a lot, hoping and finding the cheapest rat trap I could, and it was 2/3 my income. That was fun.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I really want to gtfo of Canada. There are literally too many issues across the board to think about. The "New World" experiment has failed.

[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

Where would you go? This trend is not unique to Canada, it's happening all across the West. Every liberal democracy will eventually end up like this.

[-] Yezzey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Head to he east coast. They are a little more sane and grounded.

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