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Why does this seem like step one in Trump's 'I'm not leaving at the end of my term' plan?
Because he incited an insurrection the last time he didn't want to leave at the end of his term. There's no way he'll give it up this time.
Don't forget the false slates
"Just following orders"
Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the "just following orders" excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
That's exactly why I posted that.
Only 177 people were judged in the Nuremberg trials, though. Barely a few dozens executed.
Vast majority of soldiers and civilians that were "just following orders" were indeed not condemned by their actions. At least not by any judge.
Which goes to show it didn't go as far as it could've.
They might indeed call it unrealistic to actually go on and prosecute all (and reasonably so given that recovery was key), but at least most of the top and key individuals should've gotten further consequences. Werner von Braun got off light.
There's much the USSR did terribly, but at least it was thorough with its treatment of Nazis after the war. That said, at the end of day, anarchocommunism >>>> state & surveillance capitalism. Stalin still allied with Hitler.
I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.
Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities
I think it's unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.
Because saying no when something isn't just is the right thing to do.
People used to have principles that they just would not break, despite the consequences.
but where were they on J6 huh
All these people they keep photographing look quite displeased.
Not displeased enough to not be there.
So you expect them to trash their career? This isn't a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.
They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.
Yet. Let's see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.
A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.
Imagine being under 40 and thinking you'll be allowed to retire....
While you're right, it is also the national guard so it's a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.
That's how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it's illegal but not that illegal, oh now it's illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don't do it, oh now I'm too deep, fast forward two years and you're torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.
I get all that. I agree. All I'm saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we'll see how that plays when time's up.
I think I can answer that already
So you expect them to trash their career?
Yes.
Their orders have absolutely broken that vow.
“I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”
That's something trump and his people have never understood.
They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn't gonna be a temporary thing, he's pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it's just pissing them off.
He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.
Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you're going to pull some shit.
It's really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they're comically inept
If you want some fascist stormtroopers then just pulling the NG won't get you that. But that's what they're trying to groom ice into.
Honestly (and this is a personal opinion) with the view i have of people in general, they just need to spoil them the last 6 months before the election for them to forget all about all this and become loyal. Then as soon as the elections are done it is no longer needed till the next time.
Why spend all that money over the entire period when just the last few minutes are enough to change people's mind.
I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I'm ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.
What oath? They're literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it's above board for now.
it's above board for now
Can't wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.
This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders
They swore to uphold the Constitution. So far their orders are within the law.
Oh look, traitors.
Looks like North-Korea....
Smile, you on camera just following orders.
Literally twiddling their thumbs while fully dressed out in combat fatigues wasting our tax dollars by the minute. When the fuck will they turn on their handlers and stage a proper coup?
Are we sure that's D.C.? Looks like the Pentagon (which is across the river in Virginia).
Freedom
Still rocking Humvees?
Hey at least they're not cybertrucks 🥴
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