My Windows is more like "I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don't schedule it any sooner."
Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.
Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it's got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn't get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it's chosen.
Is Linux higher in your boot priority?
Linux is higher in any priority.
Always has been.
I like how you censored systemd
Yes, let's keep this community family friendly. I could do without such obscenities.
People need to learn that it's ok to say systemd on the Internet and stop self censoring
Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.
Pretty sure windows would've just set the computer on fire at this point.
Windows just randomly installing updates only when I'm working on something with a customer.
one of the reasons I'm moving away. pisses me off so much at work, I don't even want it at home
This is just not true.
- Linux does have a graceful process.
- Windows's process is not graceful
Yeah and in linux when you say "kill this process" that process fucking dies. No 10 minutes of windows trying to negotiating with a crashed program to close. No I'm not angry about this happening to me at work today, why do you ask?
I had such an issue with Teams on Mac the other day. It had a phone call stuck running in the background, so I tried to Quit the app. The Quit Teams option just turned gray, and the laptop even refused to reboot.
Both Windows and Linux have ways to gracefully ask a program to close and to force close it. Not being able to select the correct one on either system is a skill issue.
And when chrome freezes rest of the desktop goes gray and everyrhing else freezes too including the task manager.
Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.
I’m a little spoiled by this. I did it on Windows and had to rebuild the boot partition.
I do yes | sudo pacman -Syu && sudo poweroff
(Update and poweroff)
Fuck that noise sudo shutdown 0
turn off NOW bitch!
Assuming you enter your password upon running sudo
, isn't there the risk of sudo
's privilege timing out if pacman
takes too long to complete? I believe I tried something similar, intending to run a one-liner I could start then walk away from. However, I ended up returning to see the system not rebooted hours later.
Or is yes
somehow supposed to take care of this? Sorry, newish Debian user here who hasn't ventured outside the distribution much.
"&&" will only run shutdown if the update runs correctly.
I do ";" to definitely run the shutdown after the update process exits. (Don't want to keep the system running if nothing is happening any more.)
I do ";" to definitely run the shutdown after the update process exits.
If you're able to successfully boot the machine afterwards is not your concern?
what's fun in a successfully booting system? we are arch users for a reason!
That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.
You all not suspend/hibernate?
ya'll aint just pulling out the power plug?
I flip the breaker whenever it's time to shut down.
I flip the breakers so I can keep the power plug connected
I thought the Windows update system is actually not too bad. At least compared to Mac.
Compared to Mac? Mac’s is so much better? The number of times windows has fucked me over by updating on a restart.
Fair enough. My experience on Mac has been pretty bad compared to Windows but to be honest there could be recency bias there. I use Mac every day for work and don't use Windows very often but at least Windows has never suddenly closed all my apps because it decided it was time to update.
I think you got lucky then, windows is known to do exactly that. Well, these days it at least gives you a warning that it will do it in 15 minutes or so.
That is crazy because that’s literally what windows is known for haha. My wife’s gaming computer has restarted probably six times just this year without her wanting to just to install updates.
What I’m guessing is happening is that your work has MDM enabled on your device and forces the updates through. That’s exactly what happened with the Mac work computers I’ve had while my home Mac laptops have never done that.
Yeah it sounds like I'm just out of touch with the modern Windows usage experience by the sound of it. It really sucks that it's gotten so bad, I would be so pissed off if that happened when I was playing a game or something.
Yea, it has a robust rollback system, which is part of why it takes so long now.
But... I only do updates a couple times a year to minimize the headache on my personal machines.
My work machines it's not my problem, but I reboot them at night a couple times a week, just in case.
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