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In 2023, the then-Conservative government awarded Palantir with a £330m contract to “build a new NHS data platform”. The move proved controversial because Palantir is a US spy tech firm and its co-founder Peter Thiel is a prominent Trump donor with links to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Now, a trove of leaked emails have shone further light on Thiel’s connections.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

I assume y’all on the other side of the pond are just learning about Palantir for the first time and that’s why you’re looking for bombshell headlines. I can assure you as someone from Silicon Valley that there is literally no single headline that can possibly convey the pure evil that is Peter Thiel. He literally believes that it is morally and, from his perspective, objectively correct that a few pre-selected technocrat elites (his words) should rule city-states that “compete” with each other. He is currently miserably failing at building a libertarian “eutopia” (his words) out in the desert to the east of San Francisco. He promises it would be done by this year. It hasn’t even started.

He founded PayPal and got mad when he immediately learned that banks exist for a reason. He was such a piece of shit that Elon Musk couldn’t work with him.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Wikipedia classifies him as a "thinker". Does your wiki entry classify you as a thinker? Check and mate, lib.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So basically imagine musk but worse but not as lucky.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

He made Musk’s fortune for him. It’s an asshole-eating-asshole circle. I highly recommend this podcast series about him.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

They are both linked through their families colonizing history in South Africa, including staunch Nazi support in their families.

[-] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Peter Thiel is pure evil. This tie is not surprising at all. The piece of shit is un-ironically giving a lecture on the antichrist in September.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

Hopefully it leaks, and we can hear it in full.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“I hope the voice of the antichrist is recorded and disseminated across the land.”

Really weird times.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, whyever should we seek to know our enemies ' plans and mo's?

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’ll be right there with you listening/watching. Don’t get me wrong.

[-] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The guy urgently needs to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist.

https://youtu.be/qqHueZNEzig

The narcissism is rotting your brain away, Pete!

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

The fuck is the NHS doing even talking to Palantir? That's nuts.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The UK has been doing some seriously batshit things lately. Obviously we’re not ones to talk but - yeah. It’s sad.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Er, no us Idiot Americans that supposedly elected a demented rapist who explicitly said he would set himself up as a dictator.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

I just realised it’s funnier when you lot do that if I read it as the “royal we”.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

NHS England has tens of millions of patients. Most patient records are undigitised and must be couriered when patients move to a new area or when specialist care is required.

It’s also a huge, publicly funded service so big data can be crunched to improve outcomes and efficiencies.

Palantir wanted a big system to use as the testbed for its move into healthcare data systems and offered a low bid.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Do y’all not have any software engineers domestically? I thought you invented the whole ordeal?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

There does appear to be some funny business going on.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unless I am presented with contradictory evidence (I am not accepting feedback) I will assume nobody over there is willing to program a machine of any type out of fear that their balls will be cut off by the government like daddy Turing’s were.

Edit: (to be clear, I’m just taking the piss. Please for the love of dog, do not touch Palantir with even the tip of any of your extremities.)

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s universally true that having more and better information can improve business and efficiency. (This of course has limits, yes.)

I’m sure they were offering data that would help the agency.

Now the ethics, and creepiness? I’m not commenting on that. Palantir is not ethical. They labor under twisted logic.

And every time we mention their name online, we probally get a demerit in their database.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

fuck Palantir

fuck these bots that only just predict, regurgitate and are not intelligent

fuck peter dick eater (he is ashamed of his own desire) thiel

i bet he wanted that Epstein dick deeply

[-] brianary@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

The liability is obviously not high enough if keeping and sharing this data works out positively. Even if the parties involved weren't obviously evil, the risk to the people is too high for them to accept the risk with only trivial, speculative improvements.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'm not surprised about the Thiel/Epstein thing, I'm more surprised that the NHS is considering any sort of private health data handling by PALANTIR of all companies.

Oh yeah they are in deep cahoots you should read the investigative journalism article they mention from earlier this summer.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago

It’s somehow always the ones you suspect.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I find this very hard to believe, he's such a good boy and helps grannies cross the street.

I think it's time we send some F-16s to fire missiles at Chinese weather balloons, our real enemies.

[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 3 points 1 week ago

It's worse, they sent an F-22 to shoot a 400k USD missile, I bet the balloon's radar never saw it coming!

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's way worse, shooting weather balloons make them sound like angels.

https://investigate.info/company/palantir

They provide police state technology currently used by ICE to target immigrants and several US cities police departments use their tech for "predictive policing." Not to mention they are actively and enthusiastically testing predictive generative AI to plan war crimes and hallucinate targets in the Gaza genocide. Technology they will bring home as "battle tested."

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-canada-objects-huron-missile-1.6747631

F-16, two missiles, one missed. I think these were the vanguard weather balloons that China sent to test our defenses.

Although to be fair, it looks like more of a giant trash bag.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know which all aircraft were involved at different points, but there was absolutely a shoot-down by an F-22.

I don't know anything about this website but it was one of Wikipedia's sources. I remember seeing the pictures/videos with the F-22 clearly visible, plus the noteworthy stats like being the first f-22 kill, being the first engagement over US territory since WW2, and that it was probably the highest air to air kill.

https://www.twz.com/f-22-shoots-down-chinese-spy-balloon-off-carolinas-with-missile

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It's always the people you most expect huh

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

as a rule I don't subscribe to theories related to the blood libel myth but if there was a dude to try injecting children's's blood into his blood to prolong his own life, it's probably this psycho. the dude needs a straight jacket and glands removed. not government contracts.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

I mean…

In 2016, various media outlets reported that Mr Thiel had links to the radical life extension startup Ambrosia, with Gawker claiming he "spends $40,00 per quarter to get an infusion of blood from an 18-year-old based on research conducted at Stanford on extending the lives of mice."

These reports cited his investment portfolio, together with a 2009 essay that laid out his philosophical and political beliefs. In it, he wrote that he stood against "the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual."

However the blood transfusion claims were never verified and Gawker shut down shortly after following an unrelated lawsuit partly funded by Mr Thiel.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

thiel bankrolled that lawsuit for that reason, bryan johnson does the same thing, sucks the blood from his 18yo son,

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

bro what the fuck, I was joking. what even is this reality

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The comedy show “Silicon Valley” was a documentary. They just changed the names of prominent figures and literally nothing else. That’s why it was so funny.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

His obviously a vampire, or rather the real monster that vampires are based on

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Journalists have reported on Thiel’s links to Epstein for some time. In 2019, journalist Whitney Webb reported on the links between Epstein, Israeli tech company Carbyne, and the American intelligence apparatus. In the piece, she reported:

Not long after Epstein’s arrest, and his relationships and finances came under scrutiny, it was revealed that the Israeli company Carbyne911 had received substantial funding from Jeffrey Epstein as well as Epstein’s close associate and former Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Barak, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist and prominent Trump backer Peter Thiel.

Webb added:

Another funder of Carbyne, Peter Thiel, has his own company that, like Carbyne, is set to profit from the Trump administration’s proposed hi-tech solutions to mass shootings. Indeed, after the recent shooting in El Paso, Texas, President Trump — who received political donations from and has been advised by Thiel following his election — asked tech companies to “detect mass shooters before they strike,” a service already perfected by Thiel’s company Palantir, which has developed “pre-crime software” already in use throughout the country. Palantir is also a contractor for the U.S. intelligence community and also has a branch based in Israel.

The latest revelations around Thiel come from the leaked emails of the aforementioned Ehud Barak (former Israeli prime minister). Writing in Reason, Matthew Petti reported:

Epstein invited Barak to come to a meeting with Thiel, cofounder of PayPal and the surveillance contractor Palantir, in May 2014. Although Barak couldn’t make that meeting, Epstein insisted that Barak “spend real time with peter thiel [sic]” and offered to set up a dinner the following month.Epstein

Barak wrote to a different business associate a few days later, without mentioning Epstein’s role, that he and Thiel would have a “first date” and “probably spend it talking just geopolitics” with an unnamed third person. In that email, Barak added that he had met Thiel once before in Davos, Switzerland, but speculated that Thiel “probably doesn’t even recall it.”

Brace Belden of the TrueAnon podcast added that Barak suspected Thiel was “under some drug impact” when they met, according to the emails:

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Another funder of Carbyne, Peter Thiel, has his own company that, like Carbyne, is set to profit from the Trump administration’s proposed hi-tech solutions to mass shootings.

This willingness to let billionaires offer for-profit tech solutions to social problems is a sickness, and this is the clearest example yet.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The most evil and corrupt person is linked to the most evil and disgusting person? Say it ain’t so I’m clutching my pearls over here.

This isn't even the first time Thiel has been linked to Epstein, but we never really hear about it for some reason. This isn't even the first time he's been linked this summer.

Ever since that gawker lawsuit, it kinda seems like bad press about Peter Thiel gets buried almost as soon as it's published.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's 100% safe to assume anyone who even leans in the direction of supporting supply-side economics is a diddler.

[-] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Shocked I am. Absolutely shocked.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Damn, I didn't know Jeff had boys too.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Equal opportunity predator

[-] rayyy@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Makes sense. Sex trafficking is sex trafficking. Remember when Lindsey Graham made the sudden switch from vehemently against the Orange pedophile/rapist to best buds? Blackmail makes real sense.

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

There are jokes I could make. There really are.

I just don't know how to make the idea of Thiel wanting a database of everyone who's underged into something funny.

[-] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thiel shared his views on the Ten Commandments and identified which ones he believes are the most significant.

"The Ten Commandments, the two most important are the first and last on the list. The first commandment is, you should worship God," Thiel reportedly told attendees. "The tenth commandment is, you should not covet the things that belong to your neighbor. In some ways, the first commandment is to look up, and the tenth commandment is you do not look around. And if you're too much focused horizontally on all the people around you, that's sort of the bad version you get caught up in."

He's such a hypocrite!

The greedy guy who owns a company that offers mass surveillance systems says that not looking around at your neighbors is one of the best virtues. LoL

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