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Anon doesn't like AI (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] r00ty@kbin.life 89 points 3 days ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Businesses operate on three timescales. Monthly, quarterly and annually. Anything beyond that they're not even thinking about.

When a company talks about long term strategy you can ignore everything they say after. It means nothing.

So AI can make them more money in the short term. They don't understand the problem even if it's right in front of them.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 27 points 3 days ago

I feel this is always true for public companies, while there are some exceptions in private ones.

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[-] Lewo@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

From what I've noticed, with AI companies, it's usually not "annual" but "annualized", which is just an estimate. And it doesn't seem like there are any rules to calculating that estimate, you can just grab the best 30-day period of operation, multiply it by 12 and claim millions in annualized revenue. And then they usually just sell to someone based on this estimation, since it's almost never profitable to build something on top of existing infrastructure of the main players in this market and maintaining your own is just not feasible.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago

Anything beyond that they’re not even thinking about.

Every place I've had a white-collar office job, there's been a 5-year plan. But the plan is typically a flippant and unrealistic goal, I suppose the purpose of which is to temporarily boost morale and to be a cult-like litmus test to see which employees can ignore reality.

Two of the more egregious examples: I worked in what was considered a medium sized company (maybe 30ish employees at the time). Management decided their 5-year goal was that we were going to grow large enough to own/build a skyscraper downtown. Another was at a relatively unknown regional retain chain that couldn't even compete with Walmart whose 5 year goal was to become a household name around the world.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 107 points 3 days ago

They don't have a plan. It's pigs at the trough.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Yup. The people pushing AI are not concerned with the social or economic reprocussions of pushing AI. They just want line go up.

The "Don't Look Up" greed + willful ignorance will crush us all.

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[-] Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 54 points 3 days ago

Answer. They don't fucking have a plan. At all.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 24 points 3 days ago

And they don't care. They care about profits now, not profits 5 years from now. That is a problem for future CEOs to solve.

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago

Yep, need line to go up this quarter and the few following, no further planning needed.

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[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 days ago

You pay me $10 to punch you in the face. I pay you $10 to kick me in the balls. We just increased our country's GDP by $20.

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[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago

I heard recently this summary:

The US economy depends on two things:

  • Steady growth in available jobs
  • The bet on AI eventually pay off and replace all jobs with AI.
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[-] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 55 points 3 days ago

My 401k has gotten up into the 5 digit range a couple times, but emergencies have required me to to drain it. Retirement is a dream I rarely harbor.

I'm working until the day I die. My mother fancies herself retired and rots away in a house she imagines she owns, but it has been property of the bank since before I was born in the 80s. A mortgage that was essentially renting with extra steps.

I'm just whining now, so I'll stop.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 24 points 3 days ago

It's topical whining though, so it's allowed

[-] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 74 points 3 days ago

Have you ever met Capitalism™ ? The guy doesn't really do long term plans

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Oh they absolute do long term planning, but only in a very narrow scope.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

It is all a con. There is no endgame. They aren't thinking that far ahead. And when the reality hits them it will land on them like a cartoon piano. They'll never see it coming.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean some people have more money than ever to buy stuff. That's the market that most of these things are being targeted to. Just consider everyone that isn't extremely wealthy an obsolete product being phased out of production.

Keep restricting birth control and encouraging higher birthrates as early death numbers continue to climb in the U.S. due to a lack of safety regulations and overdoses.

Restrict what can be purchased using government aid to healthy options. Not bc you care about helping poor people to be healthy, but bc you know you might end up needing them for spare parts.

'Horrifying' mistake to take organs from a living person was averted, witnesses say

Natasha Miller says she was getting ready to do her job preserving donated organs for transplantation when the nurses wheeled the donor into the operating room.

She quickly realized something wasn't right. Though the donor had been declared dead, he seemed to her very much alive.

"He was moving around — kind of thrashing. Like, moving, thrashing around on the bed," Miller told NPR in an interview. "And then when we went over there, you could see he had tears coming down. He was crying visibly."

The donor's condition alarmed everyone in the operating room at Baptist Health hospital in Richmond, Ky., including the two doctors, who refused to participate in the organ retrieval, she says.

"So the coordinator calls the supervisor at the time. And she was saying that he was telling her that she needed to 'find another doctor to do it' – that, 'We were going to do this case. She needs to find someone else,' " Miller says. "And she's like, 'There is no one else.' She's crying — the coordinator — because she's getting yelled at."

Doctors Were Preparing to Remove Their Organs. Then They Woke Up.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

You forgot they're also whining about declining birth rate, and begging people to have more kids.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Something something infinite growth

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People tend to forget how cheap gasoline is and how abundant glass bottles and rags are.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago

The masses aren't smart enough for that, it's too easy to distract them with some completely blameless minority group.

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[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 3 days ago

Sell to other billionaires ad nauseum. Let the rest of humanity starve. The usual kings and peasants model

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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 17 points 3 days ago

Short term profit.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 18 points 3 days ago

I think they plan to just sell yachts to each other at the oligarch level.

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[-] philosloppy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

the short-term plan is to slurp up all the stuff while they can. The long term plan is that there is no place for plebs in the automated future. The unwritten prologue to their sci-fi adventure is us commoners being abandoned to starve on a poisoned and resource-depleted mud ball as the intrepid billionaires go off to explore the cosmos with their robot pals.

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 19 points 3 days ago

I'm guessing they will lobby th government to give out credits. They will then trade materials with each other, allow the masses to just starve and die off. They don't actually want money, they want absolute power.

They only need us to make stuff. Once we are redundant, they won't care about selling (to us)

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

People like Peter Thiel literally want to kill off most of humanity. They see us as dead weight.

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[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago

It's UBI, and no, UBI is not a real socialist plan. It keeps the rest of us poor with little possibility of social mobility.

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[-] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Getting rid of money and having a heavily stratified society with the current wealthy at the top. Like a cheesy SciFi premise but realized here to live in.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 27 points 3 days ago

if ai replaces all jobs then there is no need to have money since everything will be available in abundance

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 days ago
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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Climate change has made large parts of the Earth uninhabitable.

Now civilization is collapsing and the remaining humans are fighting for their very survival.

Now the companies that destroyed the world have neither raw materials nor anyone to produce or buy their useless products.

What is their plan to make money if there is no longer any social order and therefore no trust in currencies?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago

Well at that point they will all go into their big luxury bunkers. They haven't really thought further than that, presumably they think that the world will recover if they stay down there for long enough. I assume they think they're immortal or have cryogenic freezes, I don't think there is much of a real plan there.

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[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Scrub the palace floors... Fight amongst ourselves.... Froth at the mouth about the scapegoats they've chosen for us...

Edit to add: I should probably recommend State Lottery by Propagandhi, from which I lovingly stole these lines.

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The wealth doesn't disappear, it just ends up concentrated.

Goods and services will just be something most people will no longer be able to afford, and they go into poverty. Business will reconfigure to support the lifestyles of the very rich at prices only they can afford, because that's where the money has gone.

Things will get so expensive, people will have to sell their assets (i.e. house) to be able to resist poverty. People without assets won't even get that parachute.

If we don't reverse this concentration of wealth, 99% of people will be living in slums before long.

The fact AI is going to hoover up everyone's job over the next couple of decades, is really just a continuation of a trend we've been seeing since the 80s: the rich are taking all the wealth and leaving none for us

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thats the fucking crazy part, they simply can't plan long term because they will be outcompeted by people only planning short term and that can't be allowed.

Besides, if the bourgeois automated every job they'd just kill us so that we stop being a problem

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They've already made a shitload of money. Now they're consolidating their extreme privilege into violent political control.

And when bubble pops, the rich will be paid immediately via an inflation tax on the poor as per usual...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/13/1163180140/silicon-valley-bank-is-it-a-bailout-barofsky

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

the ouroboros dance of capitalism will invariably lead to its own demise.

its up to us to kill it before it devours the habitable biosphere we need to like, exist and shit.

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[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

The plan is billionaires sell to each other

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago

Tax any form of automation, be it software or hardware, and pay everyone a universal income from it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago

I see that 4chan has got as far as recognising the dichotomy between short-term and long-term gratification. They are evolving faster than I thought possible. Perhaps by 2050 they'll have advanced as far as common courtesy. Well you never know.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

Next step in the capitalism game; own the people.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

It's like when horses were replaced by automobiles. the economy kept going, just maybe with more glue and less oats.

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