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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by WhoRoger@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

It's not even "Incognito" (what a misnomer too), this is a Gecko-based browser

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[-] PumpedSardines@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I feel like for straw poll it's more valid, they probably do it to try and avoid people voting more than once.

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[-] WhiteTiger@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I mean, of all sites, polls make the most sense to require cookies to avoid duplicate votes.

[-] danprs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't the better solution be to keep a log of previous client IPs, on the server side? Sure, VPN will circumvent it, but it's much easier for me to clear a cookie 100 times then to connect to 100 different VPNs.

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 2 points 2 years ago

The EU has made logging IP addresses generally illegal.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Except that it is really easy to clear cookies

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Not if you don't know what cookies even are. Stops the regular Joe just fine

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[-] quinten@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

"One vote per IP-address" - So they already tackled the problem that people can vote more then once.

Straight-up asshole design.

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's also asshole design. Most people are behind some form of nat. It's especially egregious for customers of ISPs who use CGNAT.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly what I think. They also block VPNs and such.

[-] SevereLow@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Cookies are not evil per se... but data mining companies made them like that.

I'm administrating an online store and cookies are responsible for the customer's cart, plus their user session / logged in state.

As an admin I adhere to the "golden rule", thus there are no creepy trackers on store. I don't like them and I don't want customers to face the same thing on websites that I manage.

That said, cookies are needed for user session & fraud protection. Instead of nuking cookies we shall kick the trackers out.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yea but all that kind of functionality can work with (permanent) private mode as well. I don't use a lot of web services so I can log in when I need or make a pwa like with Lemmy here.

[-] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

That's when I stop giving them traffic. There's far too many alternatives to do otherwise.

[-] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Enter.

"NOPE"

clicks back

And proceed to chose next search result.

[-] DreamySweet@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago

It's not pointless, it's so they can track you.

what a misnomer too

It's crazy how many people think "incognito mode" prevents people from seeing what websites they are visiting.

[-] funkless@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

yeah, it's for buying secret Christmas presents for your wife

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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There's an extension that allows you to hide incognito mode from websites called Hide Private Mode I'm not sure why browsers don't do this by default (maybe it's some funny compliance thing) it would greatly improve privacy.

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[-] ComradeR@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

When I go to a site, and they do it, I avoid it at all the costs or never come back!

[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Any websites that doesn't just work with a simple ad blocker or still has ads I just close and never return.

[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

"Oops! Looks like you're using an adblocker! Please pay a subscription!"

Oops looks like I'm gonna check the comments for someone who pasted your article for free!

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[-] nieceandtows@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It kind of makes sense for strawpoll, because without some sort of cookies, they wouldn't know if the same person is voting multiple times. But they should say something like 'incognito mode makes the votes inaccurate, please visit on normal mode'

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

One vote per IP-Address allowed.

They already have your IP. "Incognito" mode doesn't change that.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

That does have the consequence of allowing only one person to vote per public IP, which on large networks may correspond to quite a lot of users.

That probably doesn't matter much for a simple internet straw poll, but I can imagine situations where IP-based uniqueness isn't reliable enough.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly people should just set there browser to clear cookies on close

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Can't say I like logging into all of my accounts (most of which gave 2FA as well) 3 times a day

[-] FearTheCron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It would be nice if you could whitelist sites for cookies. That way you can stay logged into things like email.

[-] DarthRedLeader@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You 100% can. That's exactly how I have mine set up. It clears cookies on exit but then I manage a whitelist.

Here are the Chrome instructions. Firefox is more or less the same.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95647?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop#zippy=%2Callow-or-block-cookies-for-a-specific-site

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'll look into that. I believe web sites shouldn't have any way to detect private mode, right?

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe incognito enforces CSP more strictly.

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[-] jherazob@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I see that i directly close the thing

[-] lynny@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Sites like this I just close the tab and use uBlacklist to hide them from any search results.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

When is the world going to admit that by and large, internet advertising is garbage and doesn't work? People are far more likely to buy whatever random crap sponsor is on their fav youtuber's videos than anything from "targeted advertising".

[-] TechnoBabble@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Companies have the data for how much Internet advertising works.

That's why they keep buying ads.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If it didn't work, do you really think "profit at all costs" businesses would be spending millions of dollars to do it?

[-] Jables@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You can install the Ghostery add-on on Firefox mobile to prevent cookies and trackers.

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