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[-] wampus@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

A lot of skepticism on this, but if the government put together a Canadian sovereign cloud, and then fixed privacy legislation so that government and regulated industries had to pay attention to "Data Sovereignty" instead of just "Data residency", it'd likely be fairly impactful.

Currently our government, medical, financial and so on is all in US cloud services -- meaning it's all subject to the US Cloud act, and not sovereign to Canada. If they put in that regulatory requirement, there'd be a ton of potential business to be had. But any attempt to put in a Canadian sovereign cloud would require that sort of legislation/regulation in order to be viable in my view.

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

This is an important point. We are currently using foreign cloud providers hosting our data. We need to bring that data home.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

A lot more things don't look viable if you don't account for national security.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Ugh, they had to shoehorn AI somewhere. Anyway, it's a logical and good initiativebut it's probably not gonna go far enough.

Also, unsurprisingly, I was very much expecting to see OVH mentioned at some point. TBF OVH is probably better suited for this than Bell or Telus.

It's unfortunately all through private companies and consulting, but at least it's a small step forward in decoupling from American giants like Microsoft and Amazon.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Quantum computing, too.

It's pretty clear Carney buys buzzwords. Hopefully, someone closer to actual implementation does not.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

The market for AI is still there. If we don't offer the hardware here, they'll send our data to the US instead.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

It's a good idea, but unless we have legislation requiring data sovereignty, there are few reasons to use it. And that legislation sounds like something that will go the way of the Digital Services Tax.

But it'll be cool if it works out.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

LOL. Computing Canada promised this to researchers 12 years ago.

I'm sure the contract will go to the Phoenix Pay company.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm an optimist, let's see where this goes.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Coming late enough to the party to pick up the empty beer cans with the cigarette butts in them. What a non-starter.

[-] DonkMagnum@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago

lol wut? Because cloud data storage isn't a thing any more? Because giving money and data to foreign companies is awesome? What do you know that the rest of the world doesn't?

Even if they only ever hosted for the fed gov, this would still be a worthwhile project, if only to stop spending that money abroad.

[-] Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe he means it's like closing the barn door after the horses have bolted. The government already put all the personal data they have on most people into the cloud years ago.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So just leave it there? Keep putting new data there?

[-] Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You could ask him, bit it sounds to me like he's not happy about how long it took them to get to this point. He's right that the government caused generational harm to its citizenry with their oblivious decision making. The best time to set this up was before moving our information into public space. That doesn't mean the next best time isn't immediately.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Yep. I'm not sure how much of the milk is just already spilled. I still think this is a very important and good idea, though.

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