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[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I used to have a job adjacent to the gaming industry, I went in a number of gaming stores to try to find partners for the products we were selling.

I could talk at length how sad and strange gaming stores are, but I just wanted to share one incident where I was in Phoenix in August and entered a small shop in a business plaza that looked relatively clean and new on the outside.

On opening the door I was hit with the worst BO wave that has ever crashed over me, and having been in gaming stores before, this says a lot. There were some young guys sitting at tables surrounded by backpacks, which I can only assume were full of fermented roadkill, and playing various games, looking up curiously as I tried my best to smile and nod a greeting. My eyes watered and I left immediately because I felt like I was going to vomit.

I checked up on the store 6 months later and it had closed doors pretty fast. I can't imagine why they wouldn't get business.

The memes and jokes are not an exaggeration. Gamer boys are TERRIBLE at self-care and hygiene. I don't know why it's so hard to reinforce the concept to people that just because you can't smell yourself, it doesn't mean you don't smell, you NEED to shower, change clothes, all of them, including and especially socks and underwear, and you need to clean your fucking rooms, your rooms are stink nests and that smell seeps into EVERYTHING.

You know how angry incels will vomit spiels online how frustrated they are that they get the advice to "just shower?" I love this common exchange because I know for a fact that probably more than half of these boys screaming online how nobody wants to touch their weewee are also completely disgusting and do nothing to maintain and manage themselves.

[-] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

The thing is you can smell yourself. I can smell when I stink. How can you not notice that rancid smell following you is you?

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

That's because there's some times when you don't stink, so you've had time to learn the difference. Some people always stink, and they forget what clean smells like

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The general rule of thumb is to assume you can't smell yourself but others can, and if you CAN smell yourself a little bit, others can smell you a LOT.

That said, I wouldn't use this as a rule, people have very different sensitivities and you may never get a whiff of yourself even if you're fermenting. Your nose is particularly good at tuning out regular smells like your own room, clothes, bedding, and most of all your own BO. It's better to take preventative actions than trust that you will be able to tell when something is bad.

[-] kossa@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

When my parents bought their house, there were hoarders renting out the lower flat. when they opened the door, it smelled awful. Kids being kids, I just flat out asked one of their kids "Why does your flat stink so much?". They told me, it does not stink ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. So you can get insensitive about stuff like that.

On another note: my wife can taste stuff I cannot taste. I can see better than other folks while my hearing is really bad. So senses work differently for different humans. So while I can smell myself as well, that does not need to hold true for others.

[-] Edce@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pre-pandemic, we had a couple (as in they are together) over for supper. They've been friends with my wife for over twenty years now. They've always been into board and video games (each has their own gaming rig and every console), and overweight. Something had recently changed because their higiene had been ok so far. At some point in the conversation, it came up that they had done some research and found that IT WASN'T HEALTHY TO SHOWER EVERY DAY. They were now doing it once a week since "they didn't exercise anyway". Obviously, they smelled and I made that clear. We didn't hear from them for some time after that. These were two adults who had jobs and owned a house. Mind you, their house cleaning habits had also deteriorated.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They're not wrong necessarily that it's not strictly necessary to shower every day, depending on a variety of things like your daily habits and work, your overall environment and how clean you keep everything around you, how often you change your clothes, if you sweat a lot or have a lot of body oils, if you cook a lot, and so on. You can get by fine with light cleaning and a shower every other day if you have a simple, inactive lifestyle that doesn't make for conditions that make your body smell, and it might be healthier for your skin.

But jeez, always shower before going out to socialize, that's the part that baffles me... sure you can live fine with... once a week(?!) if you're at home and not expecting company, but to use that as a rationalization for being that lazy is just a sad glimpse into people with problems.

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 0 points 2 months ago

Gamer boys are TERRIBLE at self-care and hygiene.

I'm so curious about this. Why are they like that? I don't understand how that happens, and what specifically about gaming makes it more prevalent.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I think a lot of it has to do with the hobby itself being of escapism. People who delve into things like miniature or card gaming or tabletop RPG's are rarely people with strong social lives, athleticism or stable home lives. (No Henry Cavill, you sit the fuck down)

So you're going to see more people with crappy lives trying to escape or have some kind of social connection with others. Kids who were never taught by a parent figure how to properly maintain their lives and bodies, neurodivergent people who have a very hard time with some personal care, people with particular kinds of anxiety or depression.

My father was a big, wealthy narcissist a lot like Trump, he had "people" under him, he owned land and restaurants and all that, was always the drunk, coked-up "big man in charge" and grifted people out of millions of dollars in his life. He could barely read and was incapable of telling the truth, he was obviously neurodivergent in some way but was a literal baby boomer and never got any kind of care as a child other than regular beatings, so he was a mess. One thing that was particularly weird was his aversion to showering and wearing clean clothes. He hated cleaning, he often smelled like livestock, people pretended not to notice because they wanted to stay in his good graces but it was rancid.

He only made one comment ever about it that stuck to me, because he rarely said anything with any level of honesty but this seemed to have a kernel of reality. "I don't like being in the shower because I feel like I might miss something."

And that led me to realize that being in a shower or maintaining yourself means being alone with your own thoughts, being focused on yourself as a person, paying attention to your body in space and separating yourself from the environment and world around you, thinking carefully about how others view you, looking in the mirror... If you're someone constantly escaping those kinds of potentially existential moments of self-examination, self-care can feel like emotional torture, a laborious exercise in trying to revalidate all of your decisions and feelings.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Sheeeesh daddy-oof

Glad you turned out good enough for the both of you!

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

TY, I learned a lot in the two decades I was stuck in that world.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

i need something like this for people who have smoked in the last 12 hours. everywhere.

I love the feeling of being showered, wearing deodorant, cologne, and putting on freshly washed clothes. Along with having fresh breath after brushing my teeth.

It's just so much more pleasant for everyone. Smell good, look good, feel good. It does wonders for your confidence.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And if you're sweating in the shower, take a colder shower.

[-] 404@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Raggardusch (Swedish, trans. Greaser shower): a shower taken in deodorant spray

[-] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

In the Netherlands we call it a French shower, I don't know why. (But i can guess)

[-] Aganim@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I've never heard that one before, in my circle we call it a military shower.

[-] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago

I would like to volunteer the 'Hours bath, which is soap and water for face, armpits, and crotch, with a sink or basin and picher.

Hits the B.O. right in the glandulars.

Also just a big fan of washing cracks, feet, and hands after emptying the guts.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I hate the way deodorant smells, and I know that may sound oxymoronic, but I guess that's false advertising for you. I've met plenty of clean, well-groomed men, really classy fellas, who stunk to me because they wore deodorant. No insult on them, I just don't personally like it.

I make an effort to use the appropriate amount of soap so as to cultivate inoffensive bacteria in my sweaty areas while killing off the stinky ones. The mammalian body is designed to be an ecosystem for bacteria. Scientists have raised germ-free mice in labs by keeping them away from other mice and feeding them formula instead of milk, and that's not natural. When they're introduced to other mice, they catch whatever those mice have. Some mice have nice germs, some nice have nasty ones. There are no mice outside of labs who have no germs.

Most people use too much soap and basically nuke their privates every day. Then they act shocked when the stinky bacteria recolonise that free real estate faster than the nice ones. So they nuke again, and the whole cycle starts anew. Water and friction are enough for everyday, and use soap every couple of days or when things get nasty. Not too much, just enough to restore the equilibrium. Do that, and you won't be getting foul enough on a daily basis to need deodorant.

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[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The card "Cleanse" was banned for being "culturally insensitive"...

IIRC, it was Yu-Gi-Oh! players that were infamous for weaponizing their smell to distract their opponents.

My local store just smells like cardboard, ink, and paint, even during the MtG tournaments.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Usually these signs exist for that one depressed dude who no one wants to say anything directly to but desperately needs someone to tell them it's a problem.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Love Lemmy going full nerdstank in the comments.

Don't take life advice from Redditor types example #353257774

[-] Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

24? who gets smelly after a day?

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 points 2 months ago

FYI - you do not need to shower daily.

Although you can never admit this publically, as it has become the social expectation. But feel free to move to an alternate day shower routine if you haven't had a sweaty day. I guarantee no one will notice. Your skin will be less dried out. You'll save a not-insignificant-amount in water and energy and time.

Body odour comes from not showering for very many days, and more so from wearing unwashed smelly clothes.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

you might not need to but i do. my musk is potent.

[-] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Likewise. Due to a medical issue, I have a heightened amount of ammonia in my blood, so anyone with a functioning sniffer can tell if I skip a day.

A little nagchampa or scottish heather can go a long way in a pinch, I've found. Always keep a little in my travel bag just in case.

[-] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

You don't need to shower daily. You absolutely do need to wash yourself in some other way, like with a washcloth. Unless you have no BO at all, more likely than not that bacteria colony under the armpits will make you smell bad regardless of if you had a "sweaty day" or not. Plus, wearing clean clothes helps a lot.

Anecdotally, I went to a gaming convention once and that taught me to never do it again. The smell was so bad. Living the stereotype. And on a recent concert I had someone stink so bad in front of me, it ruined the experience.

Also, as a side note. The article giving an example about why someone doesn't shower being not liking having wet hair. I've heard this once. Do people not know they can just... tie their hair in a bun if it's longer or just avoid wetting it if it's short?

[-] stray@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

If your hair needs to be treated with a straightener or something, the humidity will mess it up. This is exactly why I cut off all my hair even though I love long hair, so I understand the complaint completely.

Whether or not you need to shower daily comes down to personal body chemistry and activity though. I have to shower one or twice a day since going on testosterone, but I could get away with every third day prior to that. The difference in smell is so staggering. I have to wash my face multiple times throughout the day now as well, but I've got fully make-up'd coworkers who are fine all day. It's just that our bodies are different.

I don't mean to complain about the sign's wording though; I think it's meant to give hygienic advice rather than actually police what products everyone is using and how often.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Oh great, more health advice from unqualified randos online.

Not everyone's bodies have the same needs and people should be cautious about blindly following whatever advice someone confidently suggests. If you want to shower less, please talk to a doctor/dermatologist first.

My sensitive skin has a maybe 36 hour limit without washing before it gets distractingly itchy. There's no way this advice could work for everyone.

Just be careful out there, people.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 0 points 2 months ago

There was no need to get confrontational.
If you are itchy, shower, no one forbade you. Just, it's not needed by the vast majority of people. It is but a social norm.
It is also detrimental to shower everyday with soaps.

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[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Almost everyone. Especially those who don't think they do. Ah hem.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure you should be paying attention to the spirit of the rule, not the letter.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Uh... I have the ABCC11 gene so I don't have body odour and don't wear deodorant. Can I come in?

[-] stray@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago

I don't know about her genes, but I once had a coworker who you could tell didn't use deodorant, but in a clean, freshly-showered way. I absolutely adored her smell when we got into a situation where she was reaching up very near me. It wasn't like the nothing or soap smell you get after a shower, but a human smell. It made me feel very content.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

That's what happens when you don't nuke your pits and privates with soap every day. You develop healthy bacteria colonies that don't stink, and which compete with the stinky bacteria for resources. Water and friction is enough for daily washing. Soap is for every couple of days. Except for your hands, wash your hands with soap every day.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

you have the ABCC11 gene so you can't smell your body odour. go shower

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, ABCC11 means you have no body odour and dry ear wax. It's very common in Korea but far less common among Caucasians.

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