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[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 41 points 3 days ago

Try CoMaps instead of Organic Maps. It's a fork because Organic Maps is starting to enshittify

[-] Omer_Ash@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just ran the two apps side-by-side and barely found any differences other than some subtle UI changes. How exactly is it different? And how is Organic Maps being enshittified?

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[-] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago

Quite the kinky lineup; WiFiAnal, Wetter, QuickDic... ๐Ÿ˜

[-] wolfiedafloof@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Lol. Last picture at the bottom third. "WiFiAnal" xD (Sorry, I'm childish)

[-] gilgameth@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Hey, that's the only safe way to let others control your buttplug.

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 27 points 4 days ago

Quite impressive choice of apps, usually when I look at screenshots of privacy enthusiasts they look more or less like my own phone, and with you I share 3, maybe 4 apps only

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

They said it couldn't be done...

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

It still can't be done 100% unless you make significant sacrifices to the usefulness of your smartphone...there's plenty of really useful (and sometimes necessary) things with no FOSS or open source alternatives.

[-] Starkon@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Not to mention drivers... many driver blobs are proprietary and if you can find an open source one, there is a chance it works partially or not at all. I have a spare phone and I've been hesitating between flashing either PostmarketOS (all FOSS drivers but without the android ecosystem) or LineageOS, or maybe both if I can achieve that.

[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Even if you fixed the issue with drivers...

...your modem runs it's own firmware with a lot of extremely shady behavior, and you can't touch that regardless of which OS you install. Even your SIM card can arbitrarily execute Java applets and fetch from the network without your command, but at least it's somewhat contained. Your modem though, it can do a lot without your control and people like Qualcomm have been caught doing nasty stuff with it (plus, of course, giving the US the data whenever they ask for it).

This is why people like Stallman and Snowden often talk about teaching users how to use libre software on their computers, but rather than pushing for the same with smartphones, they tell you to not touch these at all instead. They're fundamentally anti-privacy devices, built this way.

Of course I carry one, it's fairly hard to live without a phone nowadays, but we must be aware of the impossibility of fully containing the data harvesting they do.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Honest question: I see a lot of people here use their mobile phones as a computer platform. I have a general uneasiness about doing so. Not throwing any shade whatsoever, I just feel there is too much out of my control on a mobile phone, for me to trust it more than I do. My general policy is not to use my phone as a mobile computing platform even tho I have a VPN installed and use Firefox as a browser.

My local network for instance. There is one pipe in and out. I can easily see what is coming in and what's going out and I can control that with the granularity of a gnat's ass. I know what my software is doing or not doing. I can allow or disallow anything I want. On a mobile phone, I feel that the control I have on my PC is not equal to the control I have on my phone.

How have you come to terms with what you can't control on your mobile phone?

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I definitely agree with you on this. My pet theory is that phones have been getting uncomfortably big, at least from my perspective, since the average consumer is expecting it to serve as a computing and productivity platform, while all I want is a nice little digital Swiss army knife. I'm only logged into my messaging apps and personal email, and don't expect to do any sort of "productivity" on my phone. When my friends and colleagues assume I'm logged in to this-or-that on my phone, all I can think about is how afraid I would be if I were logged in to so many things on my personal phone. It's so much harder to inspect what's going on in the background of mobile devices.

One of the compromises I've had to accept is the closed, yet exploitable nature of the baseband and firmware. Also how much more spying it could do compared to any PC if an exploit were to get through. Compiling Coreboot and neutering the Intel ME taught me a lot about who's really in control - and how much control we all lose to smartphone manufacturers and telecom companies.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

How have you come to terms with what you can't control on your mobile phone?

Threat level analysis.

[-] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

What do you do when you leave the house?

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Touch grass? Not OP, but when Iโ€™m out of the house, itโ€™s because I need to do something, so Iโ€™m barely on my phone except for navigation, the occasional text/call, and paying for stuff. Otherwise, I use my laptop most of the time (at home and at work).

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

On occasion, I do leave the compound, but it's usually to get staples I don't grow/produce on the farm. Rarely does that process need a mobile computing platform. (I guess that's what you're asking)

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago

I run an older android version, no google apps, rooted, and use AFWall/AdAway. I'm sure it's not as secure with root and older software but I can mostly trust it to not send weird network packets etc.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Stop, you're gonna make me cum

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[-] AshCircuit@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

That's how my GrapheneOS phone is zero proprietary apps in the main profile and then my own separate Google profile. Essentially get to carry two cell phones with one device.

[-] curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

What does maintaining a separate profile for Google stuff buy you? I'm familiar with GrapheneOS, but haven't internalized the separate profile thing yet.

[-] AshCircuit@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It keeps Google 100โ„… seperate or vice versa.

Then when it's locked down it shuts down play services and apps to complete non functionality.

Go into system and create a new user. Set up that user exactly like you would a standard smart phone. And any apps you have on your main profile completely open source. That way it's 100โ„… Google free

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[-] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 11 points 3 days ago

Where did you get super tux kart?

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago
[-] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 5 points 3 days ago

Really?? It's not appearing on mine :(

I've got an old Samsung J7 from 2016, maybe that's why

[-] dangrousperson@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

you can get it from GitHub:

https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/releases

and you can use obtanium to automatically update it (or any apps from GitHub/ the web)

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[-] FriedRice@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Thank you. Most of thoese i even dont know. Can you make a list?

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Of course

  • Accrescent: Store ~~run~~ (edit: advocated) by the GrapheneOS team for third-party apps
  • Aegis: 2FA TOTP code generator
  • AirGuard: Scans for persistent AirTags in the vicinity, notifies if I may be victim to AirTag tracking
  • AntennaPod: Podcast manager, also supports importing local folders of podcasts
  • AudioMonitor: Measure sound level
  • Binary Eye: Support for many types of 1D and 2D barcodes
  • ByeDPI: routes internet traffic through the DNS port to bypass certain types of filtering
  • Canvass: doodle app, useful for mid-conversation diagrams and clarifying things visually in the absence of pen and paper
  • ClassiCube: Minecraft Classic clone
  • Conversations: XMPP client
  • Editor: raw text editor
  • Elementary: periodic table
  • SimpleEmail: minimalist e-mail app that does not automatically fetch linked images. Refereshes in the background every 15 minutes and sends notifications without need for Play Services or equivalent
  • FakeStandby: for edge cases when I want something to keep running in the foreground, but don't want to keep the screen on
  • Feeder: RSS client
  • Fintunes: Jellyfin client optimized for music
  • FlorisBoard: customizable keyboard
  • Fruity Game: Suika but with MS-Paint art style
  • Graph 89: Graphing calculator emulator
  • Invizible: Tor and DNS client
  • Kiwix: Offline Wikipedia (you can download just the parts useful to you, e.g. medical articles without storage-hungry media files)
  • Lemuroid: GBA emulator
  • LocalSend: instant P2P filesharing over WLAN
  • Markor: notes app with markdown
  • Material Files: files app with SMB share support and various handy features
  • Molly: Alternative Signal client
  • Fossify Messages: I use it over the default messages app since it is easy to block numbers by pattern
  • Notally: notes app with nice checklists
  • Open Camera: as easy to use as the regular camera, but with a bunch more features below the surface
  • OpenContacts: saves contacts as individual .vcf files to a directory for easy backup and allows dropping unknown callers without bothering me with a notification
  • Organic Maps to be replaced with CoMaps later
  • OSS Document Scanner: best FOSS scanning app I've found so far. Includes auto-cropping (given enough contrast) and adjustable B&W filter to eliminate off-white background colors.
  • phyphox: view output of sensors like the barometer, magnetometer, accelerometer, etc.
  • PipePipe: NewPipe but better (except for the occasional memory leakage)
  • QDict & QuickDic: offline dictionaries and bilingual wordbooks
  • RadioDroid: IP radio client. Can tune in to international news, music, sports broadcasts
  • RHVoice: TTS app
  • RiMusic: NewPipe, but for ~~Spotify, etc.~~ YT Music
  • SecScanQR: QR scanner and generator with history, useful to save QR addresses for later use since I don't want to fill out forms or read documents on my phone
  • SuperTuxKart: the only [edit: other] game on my phone
  • Symphony: Music app with a slick UI
  • Trail Sense: Compass with various goodies useful for outdoor activities
  • Breezy Weather: weather app and homescreen widget with a slick UI
  • MicroMathematics: Math engine, but I never learned how to use it
[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

That TI calculator app is the shit. I am in the generation who used those in engineering school. Goddamned things were like $150.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Ahhh....I am of the generation that remembers when there were no calculators. When they started becoming available, yes they were quite expensive. All my teachers would say 'what do you think? You think you're just going to have a calculator in your pocket all the time?' Well, yes Mr Mizelle in engineering, I will be walking around with a calculator in my pocket that links to a satellite in outer fucking space.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

And it has autocorrect on it, so then I'll forget these spelling words

[-] nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev 5 points 3 days ago

Btw Accrescent isn't run by the GrapheneOS team, they just advocate for it's use

[-] somerandomname@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Cannot find canvass on f-droid, got a link?

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[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Spotify

You had me going til that one.

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

My bad, misremembered that RiMusic fetches from Youtube music instead of Spotify

[-] Starkon@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That is the way! Excited to flash my phone to LineageOS. Thanks for sharing the apps !

[-] ZinQ@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Attack surface who dis?

[-] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

I see you have freetube. Grayjay is also a great addition as it has plug ins for lots of sites

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 days ago

Whoa, I have like half of these, nice!

[-] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

So about that Wifi app in the third screenshot...

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Forgot to put that on my list earlier, it scans for nearby WiFi access points and returns the signal strength, band frequency, and various details about each.

[-] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Does it grant "backdoor" access?

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Not that I'm aware of. I only used it to diagnose weak signals and frequency band conflicts in the house.

[-] chimp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Blessed be thy innocent soul.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Fucking legend! I'm going to spend the weekend exploring these apps and see what changes I can make on my phone. ๐Ÿ‘

[-] phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

damn bro gat the juice

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