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submitted 1 week ago by lunatique@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

No not tired of Trump or Biden but the whole government. The incompetence overall. Please don't harp on one of the presidents all day. BOTH SUCK. In fact if you look real hard you'll realize all of them sucked

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[-] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Here in Germany, a minority is, but most people I interact with are quite happy and trust the government. They do fear the right wing though.

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[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is not the government that is incompetent, that is an idea promoted by the right and the billionaires that fund both parties.

Why do so many Americans think the US has a huge crime problem? It is promoted by the same people. Statistics do not support it.

[-] lunatique@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Where you been at buddy? As an American I can tell you the government is INDEED incompetent. The right didn't create that idea good God. George Bush was incompetent in 2000 and he was the right

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The leadership is not the government. Leadership varies widely. The actual government workers and departments are different. Lot of very compitent people. There are questions of course. Big organizations tend to grow, how to address. What should be the priorites. Government cannot do everything. Mandates tend to grow. Polotics and money tend to corrupt. Like IRS, rich people do not want to pay their taxes so republicans always under fund.

If your talking presidents. Trump is the least comperent in my lifetime. Bush 2, first term not really there, second a lot better. Of course Raegon, Biden, and Trump got too old in office. The others back to the 70s which I lived through and was old enough to follow, mostly competent but all had issues of course. I am not rating these on whether I approve of their policies.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

If you replace the government with nothing, you get nothing. If you replace the government with private sector, you get shit quality and less service at a higher cost.

So, take your pick.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

That's why you replace it with a worker-run government with state-owned industry.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Yes and no. Currently, a large portion of the small business owners are firmly pro-Trump, and a lot of wealthier dems are still hardline liberal democrats, but the working class does seem to be more engaged politically and rejecting the parties. It remains to be seen if they get suckered into electoralism again, or if we finally get organized as a class.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We got rid of PP (right wing) because corruption and now there's a ton of corruption cases from PSOE (left wing).

People is tired. Most street level conversations about politics lean towards a completely lack of faith in the current system overall.

Basically the only ones hyped up about their political option are the alt-right (because you know, nazis don't care). The rest of the spectrum just criticize other options but they don't really defend their own option as they know there's nothing to defend.

[-] lunatique@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Precisely, both sides are always found to be correct and egregious because both of them practice and participate in the same system of methodology. Most of the times they're just working together. To keep an ideology of division amongst the population, the laymen never becomes expert in politics to understand the situation that they find themselves in. You're one step ahead of the curve. Do not fall in with the herd of sheep. When the resistance comes, you will be at an advantage.

[-] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty tired of the way EU works today, and needs a reformation to be taken seriously. The voting process of a union is just killing it, and there is no progress, when 1 or 2 nations can just veto against, and then nothing happens. This is apparently an "unforseen" - bug in the system. Which automatically should lead us towards federalising, and Saying: "Everyone who wants EU can join, everyone who doesn't, we'll still be friends and making trade deals, but you are no longer getting any of the sweet benefits from EU."

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

My government is good. Really good actually. But they're hamstrung by the voters being god-awful.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

The media can't shut up about the corruption cases of PP (Montoro, recently) and PSOE (Ábalos and Cerdán until recently), which is inadvertedly pushing people to VOX (far-right).

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago

I've got a job that interfaces with government employees, so I see a lot of incompetence.

I've also seen how actions have been made to improve over time and that a lot of the problems with some government agencies is just a staffing issue where they can't attract qualified people because the pay sucks.

[-] GooseGang@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago

In theory the youth are, but in practice organizing seems to be more difficult and there is a lack of clear direction on how to improve things (ie: if everything is bad)

[-] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago

And that is why their dreamy revolutions and shit won't work. This stuff requires planning, but there isn't enough intelligence around to do that.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

To succeed in revolution, you need a mass worker party supported by the working class. Right now revolutionary prep is focused on raising political education among the people and party building, not active terrorism.

[-] GooseGang@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago

Is it intelligence or couch potato activism? There were TikTok dances to protest the tariffs!!

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[-] truite@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago

2 days ago, I posted this. Since then, we have had a government for something like 10 hours then no more government.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhh!!! -The Who (1971)

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nice attempt at both sidesing. I'm assuming you're mostly focused on the us, so there is one party in power in all three branches of government and the other party has close to no power (the current shutdown demonstrates how the democrats are damned if they do and damned if they don't).

In terms of citizens, a broad portion of the us population has spent the last 50+ years hating the government, but now that it's small enough to fit in pants they seem mostly content.

Another broad portion has historically viewed government as trash but the only way to get things done that benefit the population. Since the government is now heavily focused on doing whatever it can to hurt the population (whether you're a farmer, immigrant, elderly/sick, or whatever, this government is actively trying to hurt you), that portion is now unhappy but with no realistic approach to solving it.

My perception is that outside of 20-somethings, people are more or less in the same bucket they've always been in. Nothing going on here is remotely new. I don't see any real change in people wanting anything other than the status quo.

[-] lunatique@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

So Americans are use to being ruled over and having their roles as enslaved people furthered?

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In general, yes. I'm not super old but there's never been a time in my life when that hasn't been the case. Hard to think of a developed country where this is false.

I mean not as much as Russia or China, lol

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Nope. Not in the way you lay out. There is suck and there is SSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

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