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If you're a regular internet user the Personal Data Storage paradigm won't move your data from the cloud to your personal computer. Most people will still rely on an institutional cloud service, but instead of data-banking with a shareholder-controlled corporation people’s data can be entrusted to the equivalent of member-owned credit unions for data storage.

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Or how about the radical idea of not relying on someone else for your important files?

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 week ago

that great for people who have the knowledge to do that, but keep in mind that most people do not, and don't want to learn how to selfhost from the ground up if all they want to do is backup some photos or work files.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah. It’s astounding. People live every day with and within these lighted rectangles and have no fucking clue, and rarely any interest, in how they work.

I’m just done with them. Whenever it doesn’t do what they want and they start screeching, I just calmly get up and walk over and close the door.

Oh Windows problem eh? *sst*. Mmm. That sucks, bro.

Well, bye.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, there are always ready-to-go solutions. A 1TB external drive isn't all that expensive nowadays, and they're enough for daily use!

Plus, honestly... there are soo many tutorials online about how to set up everything, and most things are a couple of commands one has to copy/paste into a command prompt. The anxiety is far worse than the procedure itself.

Maybe what's needed is propagating these tutorials more, make them visible and highlight their accessibility in terms of procedural difficulty!

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 week ago

most things are a couple of commands one has to copy/paste into a command prompt.

how many people do you think know what a command prompt is? because quite frankly even knowing that much is very uncommon for the vast, overwhelming majority of the population.

you're talking about condensing years of learning into a few tutorials, as if it's nothing. idk if it's smug superiority, or you're literally just ignorant of how much you know that the average person does not, but it's fucking wild that you think the average person is going to be able to do what we do without giving up.

this ain't a hobby for everyone else, it's difficult and frustrating work.

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago

I mean to be fair, self hosting data doesn't mean much more than just adding a hard disk or something. It's only when you want remote access to it that it becomes more complex than that.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

it does. you need to choose the software. you need to install the software. you need to update the software, and be prepared to deal with a bad update. you need to keep backups so that you can restore your files when disaster happens, and you need to know how to make a proper backup (have all the data, also backup the permissions, databases need special care, ...) and how to restore it.

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

How do you account for off site back ups though? I'm currently setting up my own set up but I'm not sure how I should perform off site back ups.

[-] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Got a friend or family member willing to let you drop a miniPC at their place?

You could also go the offline route - buy two identical external drive setups, plug one into your machine and make regular backups to it, drop the other one in a drawer in your office at work. Then once a month or so swap them to keep the off-site one fresh.

Also there’s really nothing wrong with cloud storage as long as you encrypt before uploading so they never have access to your data.

Personally I do both. The off-site offline drive is for full backups of everything because space is cheap, while cloud storage is use for more of a “delta” style backup, just the stuff the changes frequently, because of the price. If the worst were to happen, I’d use the offsite drive to get the bulk infrastructure back up and running, and then the latest cloud copy for any recently added/modified files.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Some of us never used cloud storage. I never trusted it.

[-] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

Now I'll even have more trust issues.

Would I rather trust;

A share-holder controlled corporation who has to follow their own rules and standards to make sure said data doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

or

Member-owned data storages that could be broken into far easier than the share-holder controlled one.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 week ago

Member-owned data storages that could be broken into far easier than the share-holder controlled one.

that's just corporate fear mongering propaganda. it isn't true at all.

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I’ll stick to my home server, thanks.

I’ve spent the last 2 years pulling all of my cloud data. I’ve read too many stories at this point about people losing access to their stuff and with the way administration is going, that’ll only get worse.

The cloud is just someone else’s computer, after all.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the best idea would be to duplicate it multiple times and share it with multiple people encrypted so that only you can open it.

Things like IPFS, for example.

This is also the way nostr works.

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