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I see all the memes about guillotines for the rich, funny in spirit, but actually building one in the town square is not practical. They take a ton of materials, they are huge, and they do not even work reliably. Would it not make more sense to build one from metal with hydraulic pistons or something? I am not a machinist, but a more mobile unit you could wheel into a square to decapitate a few effigies seems about as effective for sending a message, and easier to remove or relocate if needed.

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[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

If it's about sending a message, then the item itself is the conveyor of the message, not an unrecognizable but more efficient substitute. The guillotine is a recognisable symbol of people rising up and seizing power from the criminal ruling class. It is a warning and a threat.

If you plan on actually executing people, then sure - optimize all you want, or just go with a bullet to the brain.

But as a symbol, the guillotine is powerful.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Let's not encourage the troll. Sure there are certain people that it won't hurt my feelings at all if they suddenly stop living, but at the same time I don't agree with the death penalty, I think that just makes the executioner just as evil, if not moreso, than the person getting their head lopped off.

Death no good yo.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

I'm against the death penalty because I don't believe it should be necessary in a just world, nor should the state ever be trusted with that kind of power.

However, I see the guillotine as symbolizing the last resort in an unjust world. The worst monsters in society commit their injustices in broad daylight, and nothing will be done about it. We know that justice will never be served through the courts. So what then?

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Other options are available besides death. Like, lock the 34x felon up in prison, like they should have already done...

[-] missingno@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

They should have. But they won't.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Interesting.

I say they should have locked him up, I get downvoted.

You agree, he should have been locked up, you get upvoted.

I don't give a fuck about the actual vote count, that doesn't matter. But the differential of votes for two people that expressed the same opinion, the fucker should have been locked up, well that dumbfounds me.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You’re getting downvoted because you’re saying we should do something that clearly will never be done. He ain’t been locked up yet despite a laundry list of crimes and convictions.

When justice becomes a joke, people will eventually take it into their own hands, for better or worse.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

And by all means, if that's what needs to be done, I already said it won't hurt my feelings. I just choose not to participate in such a way. My late father was a weapons engineer, amongst other skills and trades. I shot myself in the arm when I was only 3.

So I choose to be a non-violent person, because I know what it's like to be shot. Life ain't a game, nor should it be treated as such. We should all be here trying to help each other, not this bullshit we got going on today..

[-] BuckWylde@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

There are people at the top who have the power to make things better for everyone but choose the furthest from that. They do direct harm to so many people with no accountability. To deny them of their lives would be showing them the respect that they show to others. It's the least we could all do.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

That's a nice sentiment. But an unrealistic one. Be the bigger man riding his high horse down the high road after we win. These people kill us every day. With the police. Via social murder. Deaths of despair. Poiaon food and water. All their fault. An intentional policy choice.

If we have to kill them to win. Then they gotta go.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Makes about as much sense as fucking for virginity or killing for peace. I'm not buying either of those ideas.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It must be nice, living in a fantasy world where good people win because they're good and the bad guys get to sit in jail for being bad.

I would love it if we lived in an ideal world where everyone plays by the rules.

I am not naive enough to think we live in that world.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Meh, I've been threatened multiple times by crazy people, even cops.

I've found that staying chill and just walking away from crazies has successfully prevented me from getting a bullet to the head.

Two wrongs never make a right. Kill them with calm kindness. Just walk away, don't contribute to the violence.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago

Feel free to turn a blind eye to reality, not all of us are priveleged enough to do so.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not turning a blind eye to reality at all. I totally get it, life itself is a risk.

I'm 43 years old, and have enough common sense to not agitate crazy people. I've had my share of crazy experiences to know, that being chill is way better and safer than sinking to their level of violence.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

I've seen discussions about the future of automation where people speculate "what will rich people do with the general population when they're no longer necessary to keep industry running for them?"

Opening up the "let's just kill the people we don't like and don't want as part of society" box seems like a bad idea in a context like that.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I like your approach here of making a clearly wrong statement just to get more activity on this important topic

I will add yet another comment that guillotines are neither complicated nor require much material. you could make a sturdy one with less than a dozen 2x4s, some screws, a scrap piece of rope, and whatever junk metal you have lying around that's around 24x8 (which you need regardless of how fancy the frame itself is)

that said, mobile ones seem like they would also have a purpose

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago

Ton of materials?

It's just a large frame to hold a big knife dropped by letting go of a rope. The hardest thing to get would be the blade, and the whole thing could be constructed in under 2 hours.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Guillotines are too tame for modern audiences. Wood chippers are fresh and exciting.

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Because we don't see what real, actual, guillotines do.

I accidentally saw a guillotine-execution on DuckDuckGo ( they used to be much worse than they are now, for including stuff you don't want to see )

and .. it's kinda hard to communicate how WRONG that is, to chop a human-life to that degree of .. to just-now-dead..

interesting: I can't communicate how wrong/horrible it was, through words!

Anyways, there's some German word, looks sorta like schedenfruede or something like that..

it means "finding enjoyment in other people's suffering", and old-people don't find it funny, generally, because old-people have experienced enough diversity-of-suffering to be able to understand other-people's perspectives..

The more one sees what people mean, the more one has to choose a self-defense-for-one's-psyche strategy:

either sensitivity, in which case one has to avoid the coarser & worse stuff in life, systematically .. XOR

de-sensitization, in which case one can joke about it, push it, even do it, because one is making one's essence become mechanical/dead to what one's engaging.


There's a story of Hinduism, during the British rule of India..

Some privileged people got together to do some hunting..

1 of those was Indian, he'd used guns, before, he just hadn't destroyed someone's life, before..

After he shot a naturally-magnificent animal, & saw it dying as a result of his bullet, he put down his rifle, & left, never returning to that kind of culture, again..

IF sensitivity is one's path, like making oneself into a combination microscope+telescope, spiritually, THEN .. this kind of reaction becomes inevitable.

You just can't accept what a real guillotine-execution is.

Joking-about such stuff is fine until you actually understand what it means .. & then .. you can't joke about it, anymore.

Like Ukranians are unlikely to be able to joke about what Russia did to Mariupol, you know?

It's too live-wire fresh a wound..


Having seen what a 1-to-2-second long video of a guillotine-execution looked like, I'd now say that only the evil could do them, repeatedly.

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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Same reason we still "hang up" the phone.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Who is joking?

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 0 points 4 months ago

You can make them modular, with telescoping rails, for portability. The blade needs to be weighted, but the weight can consist of a stack of weights, like on gym equipment. In fact, you could probably repurpose a bench press machine into a guillotine with a few minor modifications.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

You can also add jets to make it shoot down faster.

[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

I love where your head is at! 🤣

[-] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Use a log splitter with a different blade, higher capacity valance and an accumulator for faster action. Strengthen the frame and maybe add a dampener for the end of stroke so things last longer. Reloading ca be controlled by smaller hoses.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

so things last longer.

Sadism is a negative, not a positive.

[-] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

“Last longer” was referring to the machine life not the execution. The accumulator is there to make it painless.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I thought they mean it for the equipment, that it does not wear out so fast

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Don't log splitters work incredibly slow?

That's not really gonna chop people's heads off, rather it would inexorably pinch their necks until their head falls off.

That's pretty fucking gruesome.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If we're going for gruesome, how about we build a huge version of one of those slicers that they feed vegetables in, and just feed the oligarchs into it.

Gives you the option to feed them head first if you want to show mercy, while still being able to feed them in feet first for someone like Musk.

Then they are cut up into small, easy to compost pieces.

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 0 points 4 months ago

Wood chippers exist and are pretty much this

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

While I appreciate the composting efficiency, I was thinking something like this for maximum gruesomeness:

https://youtube.com/shorts/c7lSg0T0dJ0

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

that's just a wood chipper on less of an angle and with the blade shown

and a bigger blade because it doesn't have the stiffening framework behind

[-] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Most wood splinters do move slow but that one (Large valve and accumulator) would make it faster.

[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago

Nobody is wanting to build a guillotine. it's simply a symbolic reference to the French Revolution.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Exactly. It's like when people joke "eat the rich". Zero desire for cannibalism, but 100% desire for the rich to be removed from the earth.

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 1 points 4 months ago

Compost the rich.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

if it were up to me, i would use a chainsaw

[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 0 points 4 months ago

Are you the type that loves bathing in gore? Because that's what will happen immediately if you start chainsawing people up. They throw everything directly back at the user.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

shit, man. fuck

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago

Treat it like a Gallagher show and give the first 3 rows rain ponchos.

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